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Seinfeld: The English Patient | Episode 151 Recap Podcast

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Rob Cesternino and Akiva Wienerkur continue their journey to watch every Seinfeld episode as they discuss Season 8, Episode 17, “The English Patient.”

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  • Chris

    Excellent job as always. “A” game for sure. Looking forward to the home stretch. Really hoping you will consider a Curb recap. Very interesting re the post 911 edit for syndicated shows. Also totally agree that the move to put a bow on the Jerry story was to have young (but still old) Mandelbaum III rather than Grampa. T-shirt stuff was funny, wonder what shirt Rob will receive one day from Anthony’s therapist? Jurrassic Park?? Yikes.

  • Chris

    Excellent job as always. “A” game for sure. Looking forward to the home stretch albeit with slight melancholy knowing that the end is in sight. Apologies if you have already addressed this but I hope you will consider a Curb recap, seems like a perfect transition. Very interesting re the major life events happening sparingly over time as well as post 911 edit for syndicated shows. Re the episode, totally agree that the move to put a bow on the Jerry story was to have young (but still old) Mandelbaum III rather than Grampa. T-shirt stuff was funny though and pretty relatable. Wonder what shirt Rob will receive one day from Anthony’s therapist? Jurrassic Park??

  • Recovering Lawyer

    I’m a big fan of this podcast, and I know Rob has a lot on his plate, but the sloppiness and lack of preparation is really becoming a problem. Factual mistakes about the episode and not doing basic research into a major guest star like Lloyd “I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamones” Bridges made this a frustrating listen. Maybe whoever does the episode recap could add more details for you guys?

    • homertownie

      I agree they miss a lot of factual connections, but I think they are trying to do a podcast in a manner akin to how Jerry and George discuss matters on Seinfeld, and not make an encyclopedic discussion of the show. They could have learned much more about the movie “The English Patient” that explains some of what they didn’t understand about the show, but George and Jerry wouldn’t do that.

    • Suzi!

      homertownie is right. The beauty of this podcast is it’s literally “a podcast about nothing.”
      In the spirit of the show itself, they take on the core 4 attitudes. The core 4 were rarely prepared for anything.

  • homertownie

    I saw the episode on TBS and they do include the hijacking scene at the end of the episode. It didn’t strike me as shocking due to 9/11 as much as it just seemed out of place for being so serious in a Seinfeld episode and not making much sense for Dominicans to hijack a plane. Still, Elaine’s lack of real concern does soften the scene.

    By the way, I saw the English Patient when it came out on a date. It isn’t so bad as it is just long and told in multiple flashbacks, and people kept thinking the movie was over when a flashback ended, only to have it go back and do another 20 minute flashback. You either loved it or hated it.

    • Hornacek

      “and not making much sense for Dominicans to hijack a plane”

      They had to hijack the plane in order to get to Cuba, which is where they wanted to go.

  • Hornacek

    Sorry to say that Rob and Akiva come off as real movie snobs in this episode. Maybe they were just trying to play along like Elaine but it really felt like they weren’t joking and thought that The English Patient (the movie) sucked even though neither of them had seen it. I saw it in the theater when it was out but haven’t seen it since but I remember liking it. So I rewatched it before this episode and it was, and still is, a great movie. Yes, it’s long (2.5 hours) but I thought the performances were great and I liked the dual timelines where Fiennes told/remembered how he met Thomas and fell in love. It’s a romantic drama set in WWII so it may not be for everyone, but I love sci-fi and superhero movies too, and I also liked this film. Plus Rob and Akiva’s opinions that this is an Oscar-bait film that only critics like doesn’t really hold water – Rotten Tomatoes has it at 84% with critics and 83% with the audience. And it was a blockbuster hit – made for $27m and making $232m, so the public, not just critics, really loved it. Again, not a movie for everyone, but the idea that it sucks (without ever watching it), that only critics loved it, and the public hated it then and now doesn’t have anything to back it up (never thought I’d be defending TEP which is definitely not one of my favorite movies).

    Similar to the Raisinettes selling Raisinettes in the movie promo are the California Raisins ads from the 80s. It was raisins trying to get you to buy (and eat) raisins. Weird.

    When Elaine’s friend makes the “I’d give up my first born for him…” comment Elaine has a funny followup “He’s getting the short end of that stick.”

    Also, I really don’t think Peterman can legally fire Elaine for not liking TEP. I think he would have a lawsuit on his hands. At least she got a free trip to Tunisia out of it. Well, Cuba.

    I did like in the tag when they’re announcing what the movie is on the plane and Elaine is sure it’s going to be TEP but it turns out to be Sack Lunch. I didn’t remember the ending on this rewatch and fully expected it to be TEP so this was a pleasant surprise.

    I agree that you can’t make hijacking jokes in post-9/11 sitcoms, but the ending scene is still funny and shouldn’t be penalized by today’s standards. That is similar to saying an episode is terrible because cell phones would resolve the plot in 2 minutes. They didn’t have cell phones then, and 9/11 hadn’t happened then, so it’s unfair to judge that scene based on today’s sensibilities. It’s true that pre-9/11 (especially in the 90s) a plane hijacking was seen as more of an annoyance than an actual threat.