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Better Call Saul Season 2, Episode 6 Recap | Bali Ha’i

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Better Call Saul Season 2 Episode 6 Recap Podcast of “Bali Ha’i” on March 21, 2016

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Rob Cesternino and Antonio Mazzaro recap Season 2, Episode 6 of Better Call Saul on AMC and answer some of the listener questions.


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  • James Griffin

    I particularly enjoyed this podcast, good analysis of the episode.

    • Park that is Paranoid

      Same I only wish it was live, so that we could have more interactive.

      • Antonio Mazzaro

        We will be live for the finale. Hope you can join us then.

  • It is my favorite day of the week! I get to watch Jimmy-Kimmy and Mike and listen to Antonio’s very interesting law firm story. Although I had absolutely no idea how menacing the cousins are, it is no problem enjoying the show. (Of cource, I have all planned for watching all seasons of Breaking Bad real soon without no doubt.)

  • Charles Bikle

    I always enjoy these podcasts and it was interesting hearing about Antonio’s disdain for his fellow lawyers and Rob’s concerns over his lack of doomsday-preparedness prompted me to make this:

  • TrentC

    Forget about the color schemes as they pertain to wardrobe, what the heck is going with the lighting? 90% of the show is lit like a sewer. Almost every scene at Davis and Mane reminds me of Phantom of the Opera. Do lawyers really work in that environment ? Of course Mike hasn’t had a light on in his house for years, it seems to be part of his world.

    The Mike scenes this week were especially great with the appearances of Hector and the cousins. I’m warming up to the Kimmy and Jimmy relationship, if only to see how it may end.

    Enjoyed the podcast guys, thanks. Regarding insomnia problems I’m similar to Antonio. I listen to podcasts with headphones on while laying on the couch and typically enter the land of Nod before they’re done.

    • Yeah! About the lighting, I’d like to add some more to that. At Davis and Mane, it’s always dark, and in contrast to that, at HHM, it’s always bright with nutural sunlight coming through glass windows. However, when Chuck comes to work, the place immediately becomes darker. I’m not sure what this lighting scheme is about yet.

      • Mairi’sWedding

        Chuck can’t deal with lights, so that one is not a mystery to me. But the others…I don’t know.

      • Charles Bikle

        The design/decor of Davis & Main, seems to be a semi- open office look (usually associated with young start-ups) combined with an old-school mahogany & leather chair design of classic old-school law firms. HHM seems very modern & compartmentalized in it’s look.

        • Antonio Mazzaro

          They talk a little about the specific look of Davis and Main on the BCS Insider podcast. They definitely wanted a contrast to the antiseptic corporate feel of HHM with a warmer, more Southwestern feel and the location they got for Davis and Main was ideal for what they wanted. The wood and art and very different warming feel is absolutely intentional.

          • It’s a cubic building with several floors where HHM is. Modernized and cold, especially with that blue color. Davis and Main, on the other hand, looks warm, old and conservative. Yellow is nowhere in between; It feels.. very 70’s or 80’s, crude, unprofessional, provocative, and so on.

        • FuZ

          How is it that Chuck can’t use electricity, but he can consume things made with it? Also, someone needs to have a cell phone around him just because. I’ve thought that Jimmy could have done that a couple of eps ago when Chuck showed up out of the blue.

      • TrentC

        Yes as Mairi’sWedding mentioned below, lights are part of Chucks electromagnetic illness or allergy, however you want to phrase it.

        Interesting you bring that up. We recently saw a flashback with Chuck and his wife and he didn’t have that aversion to electrical items. She must have died and then he somehow developed the mental illness towards electromagnetic items. I call it mental illness because in season one during a flashback an astute nurse did a small private test without Chuck realizing it and he didn’t suffer any symptoms.

        • Yeah! Actually I noticed that and forgot about it! I don’t think Chuck was allergic to electromagnetic when he was with Rebecca. However though, he didn’t like it back then already. If there is any intention, I think Chuck is representing something in contrast with the darkness that he always keep.

          • TrentC

            Something pivotal definitely happened to Chuck after the wife died or left him.

            Have you watched Breaking Bad yet? (just kidding) As Antonio mentioned, it’s worth making time for.

          • Just began watching season 1 episode 1 !! haha thanks!

  • Mairi’sWedding

    If this was back in the year 2000. How come Mike’s granddaughter looks to be the same age? I can let go of Mike looking older, but Kaley should be a tiny baby, no?

    • Antonio Mazzaro

      She should. we’ve talked a little about this, the show is just not caring at all to fix this issue. They made a clear choice to not age Kaylee down appropriately.

    • FuZ

      I was thinking that she looked older than she did than in BB.

    • Dan C

      Left = BCS
      Right = BB

      BB Kaylee does look a few years older.

  • Evan D

    As always, a great recap guys. You really do a wonderful job.
    Mike’s confrontation with the Salamanca crew at the end is nothing less than a nod to Walter’s now infamous encounter with Tuco.
    Not unlike Mike, Walter, after having had his meth stolen and his partner hospitalized, is forced (like Mike) to confront Tuco on his own turf. And like Mike, he turns his apparent disadvantage into advantage by basically announcing his willingness to go out in a blaze: with Walter, it’s the mercury fulminate; with Mike, it’s the pistol he’s about to use on Hector S.
    In both cases, each protagonist ends up bagging 50K. And, crucially, in both cases, they earn the respect of their adversaries.
    Gotta love that attention to the history that Gilligan et al are bringing to the show.

    • Antonio Mazzaro

      I am trying to serve many masters by not branching into Breaking Bad at every turn but this is a very solid take. I also think you can view this as the different lenses each show uses. Breaking Bad gets right into very horrible things from the jump in the pilot. Better Call Saul is very much about delaying that level of violence and intensity. So it makes sense that a similar confrontation on BCS would end not with a bang, but with a (by comparison) whimper. This is a show that is slower-paced by design and this scene and your comparison perfectly underscores this.

      • Evan D

        Oh, well said. Because of these huge differences in “violence and intensity,” Better Call Saul (BCS) is, in many respects, far more relatable then BB. Walter White’s decent is almost Shakespearean in scope; very few of us go to the extreme (thankfully) that he does. Moreover, Walter’s transformation is startling and uni-directional — namely bad and getting worse all the time. Jimmy, by comparison, is quite flawed from the get-go; he alternates between good and bad more often than we can count. But in the end he will end up at the Cinnabon because of the choices he makes — much like Walter. It won’t, however, result in scores of dead bodies and ruined lives.
        Slight digression here: one the reasons I prefer BB over the Wire is the centrality given to human agency. For David Simon, characters are hostages to the institutions they can never change. (Simon once compared this fatalism as being akin to Greek tragedies wherein heroes are pawns of the gods or fates.) Gilligan, by contrast, loves to show how characters making flawed decisions are bound to pay for it in the end. Kim warns Saul that his shortcuts, minor though they may be, will be his undoing. And she’s right…

  • Kathie

    Where are you both getting that Kim had a lunch appointment? When the other woman walked into her office to bring he files, the only thing Kim said other than “just put them anywhere” was that it was 1:15 and she was about to go grab some lunch. The other woman then said that Howard said he needed her work done by 2:30 and started talking about the fancy salad place. Kim didn’t say anything else after that, she just walked out.

    My take on what she did after that was similar to Antonio’s. I don’t think anyone stood her up or that she was waiting for anyone. I think she had just had enough in that moment, and walked out, then went to get a drink to be alone and think. If she had actually been waiting for Schweikert, I don’t think she would have ordered “his” drink. That’s not the way she would try to impress someone on an interview. “Hey look, I like your drink, look what a good fit I’ll be!” Nah.

    • Charles Bikle

      “Hey look, I like your drink, look what a good fit I’ll be!”

      I say that line all the time – job interviews, dates, court hearings, etc.

    • FuZ

      Agree. I was focused on the business card that she was holding before calling Jimmy. I don’t think that she was calling S&C to cancel a meeting.

  • DirectorEvil

    I looked up the wiki for the film poster that was on Kim’s wall, The Thrill Hunter.
    Interesting….”a teller of tall tales”.

  • Ocean

    I have intimate knowledge of the legal business – Schweikart (sp?) only attended the hearing before the judge in order to poach Kim. It really didn’t matter if he thought she was any good at the hearing. If he could poach her, that would help to dismantle HHM Sandpiper team. His firm could put her in real estate or family law to avoid any conflict. If she did well, fine she stays. If not, she goes. It is almost irrelevant if they get info out of her because just that she is leaving HHM is enough of a set back to HHM – that helps Schweikart. The price of paying for her tuition is a drop in the bucket to them – just cost of doing business.
    She should go to Schweikart just to get her tuition paid off and then leave.
    ALSO, Schweikart made up that story about how when he was a young lawyer, bought a new suit, and then went to a hearing without the first chair. He made it up just to soften Kim up. Very common lawyer trick.
    Mazzaro was spot on during the entire podcast. Love his commentary. He is much better at explaining the episodes than Kelley Dixon (BCS editor) on her podcast. I gave up listening to them. I only listen to Antonio and Rob now. GREAT PODCASTING!!

    • Kathie

      Agree 100% on the first three. I do like the Kelley Dixon-led BCS insider podcasts though. They do tend to stray away from the actual episode, but I enjoy them.

  • Kathie

    A couple of things I didn’t pick up on until my rewatch:
    Jimmy saying, after singing Bali Hai, “That concludes our week of South Pacific,” probably literally meant he’d been calling Kim every morning for the past week, singing a song from South Pacific. She was definitely stalling on walking out the door, waiting for that call – all dressed and ready to go, but staring at the phone, and then once it rang she hurried back in not to answer it, but to sit and listen. Very nice.

    Also, when Jimmy pulled away from the nail salon, I noticed for the first time that the phone number was listed on the sign. Give it a call – it’s worth it. 🙂 1-505-842-5325