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Fear The Walking Dead Season 4, Episode 3 Recap: Good Out Here

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Fear The Walking Dead | Season 4, Episode 3 Recap – “Good Out Here”

Rob Cesternino & Jessica Liese recap “Another Day in the Diamond”, Season 4, Episode 3 recap of “Fear The Walking Dead”

  • SteveDavisThird

    Talking Dead confirmed that Nick died from his gunshot wound. Last time you see Daniel Salazar was when he was pulling Nick away to retreat on the bridge….after getting shot in the face

    • Pink Pearl

      After getting shot in the face, spitting out some teeth, and STANDING BACK UP! Just saying. That dude is as unkillable as Alicia.

      • TrentC

        You brought up a good question about Madison. I had some problems with the timeline of this episode (out with Sea Bass last night) and if Madison has been killed, things would make a little more sense to me. But that implies Madison has been gone since before Nick’s group car-jacked the SWAT vehicle. I like Madison, hope that’s not the case.

        Come to think of it I missed what happened to the entire cast except Madison after the dam broke last year. A nice young girl helped her out of the water…GASP! Charlie?

        I normally enjoy time jumps if the story is being told in a clever way. This show leaves so much on the floor in between episodes and seasons, I find myself frustrated. I think Salazar is alive and didn’t think twice about it until you guys brought it up.

        And yes Al wanting to hear your story in exchange for what amounts to lifesaving favors is wearing a little thin.

        They planted some good flags on the opening episode, not sure if killing Nick is going to help the show. I grew to like him over the seasons.

        • Adam Bradford

          I assumed Salazar is alive also. But I think with the new showrunners, he may or may not come back. If the show is still on the air, I could see him coming back in a future season like Morgan did on the original show.

          • TrentC

            Trying not to sound jaded, but it’s too bad either contract disputes or other offers often dictate what happens to characters. Maybe Ruben Blades (Salazar) is busy with his band?

            Salazar has walked out of a burning building and lived through getting shot directly in the face. If he does leave the series, his last scene better involve hang-gliding into a herd of walkers with C4 strapped to his body screaming – LUCY I’M HOME!!!

  • Stylez

    That moment when you realize Mel from the Voltures is the kid from the Air Bud movies….

  • Andiamo

    I think Madison has to be alive. Unless they really up Dharma’s storyline and she becomes more of a lead, but even so I would be really surprised if they killed off both Madison and Nick.

    I found Nick’s story interesting in the beginning, but he got to be pretty annoying, so I’m not sad to see him go.

    I was liking the storytelling choice of jumping time periods, and I still think it works to create mystery in some ways, but it really took away from the dramatic impact of Nick’s death. Without knowing the full story behind Nick’s anger at Ennis, and what happened with Charlie and Madison, his death was shocking, but somehow not very compelling. Being shot by a child should be much more dramatic than it felt.

    • TrentC

      I’m an idiot. I haven’t watched the ep yet, saw some posts and decided to peek. Nick got clipped?

      And your post reflected my first thoughts about Dharma coming onto the show. That she could pretty much mirror the Madison character so why have two of them?

      Could it be that simple? Morgan for Nick and Jenna Elfman for Madison? I think Madison makes the show but would never say that outloud because some fans hate her.

      • Andiamo

        Ooh that was a bad idea this week. Yup, Nick is gone in the present, but since they’re doing all the flashbacks he’s not fully off the show yet.

        I like Madison too, and the show would be worse without her. There I said it too. Maybe Dharma will just be her bestie, maybe more, who knows. It would be nice, and possible, to have more than one strong female character on the show. I don’t know if we know enough about her to say how similar they are, except the same basic age and look. Maybe they will end up having a kind of revolving cast, but I would like them to keep Madison around for a while.

        The best thing to happen to the show was killing off Chris and Travis, so hopefully it will keep getting better without Nick too. This one was a little different though since the actor who plays Nick asked to leave the show rather than them writing him out for the purpose of the story.

        • TrentC

          Thanks Andi. I’m going to miss Nick, there I said it. Just in the middle of another long post as I’ve now watched the episode and listened to the podcast. Chain of events is important here…durrrh.

    • Adam Bradford

      I wouldn’t think Madison would be dead either, especially with them killing Nick. However, it’s possible that Kim Dickens also wanted to jump ship with FTWD not becoming the huge hit some thought it might.

  • Charles Bikle

    The way that Nick was killed off, the gimmicky & disappointing villains and the lazy slow-paced flashback back & forth are classic Scott Gimple, who has become very good at annoying his audience.

    Gimple sent the main show into a death spiral that I don’t think they’ll recover from and now he’s working his magic on FTWD.

    AMC really, REALLY needs to fire this guy.

    • TrentC

      It’s the character motivations that always bother me. The scene with Nick and Morgan waiting at the SWAT vehicle. Morgan cuts Nick’s restraints and they share a power bar. They are waiting for the entirety of both crews to return with a method to retrieve the SWAT vehicle. Then Nick sees the Camino and runs away? Because he thinks the driver was a dick? Even stoned out his face Nick would know that’s a stupid idea compared to the benefit of waiting there.

  • Megan

    I mean let’s be honest, if that gunshot didn’t kill Nick, that would be maybe the most unrealistic kind of thing FTWD has ever done…you don’t survive a GSW to the heart…just sayin’.

    • Adam Bradford

      Oh “he dead.” I think that’s why he died that way, unfortunately with all the fake out deaths on TV shows over the years have made it where writers have to script the deaths to be obvious like this one, even if they’re somewhat boring.

    • TrentC

      Charlie is a better shot than Rick Grimes.

      kid – 1
      state trooper – 0

  • TrentC

    Can someone please help me understand the timing this episode? We see Nick and Madison in what look like shot on film flashbacks.

    Then we see Al, John and Morgan captured by Nick, Alicia, Strand and Luciana. They make this huge deal of Nick’s group finding out what the flags are about from Al and her group group.

    So how is it they don’t know who are making the flags and why? Nick confirms my confusion by seeing the El Camino and running from Morgan at one point. This proves it’s already past the time of meeting The Vultures.

    So in my mind – The lovely Nick and Madison scenes about finding good things while out on gathering runs are after meeting The Vultures. Yet the SWAT vehicle scenes have to be after that because Nick ends up dying. So how come all the hoo-hah about negotiating for flag information?

    • Andiamo

      I think you’re right about the timing. Nick and Madison are talking about hoping Charlie will come back, so it’s soon after they meet the Vultures. The scenes with Morgan are in the present.

      I think your confusion is with the flag thing. It’s not that they don’t know that the Vultures are behind the flags, it’s that they don’t know where the Vultures are now, and they’re looking for them. When they find the flag in Al’s truck they think she’s part of the Vultures. She convinces them that she’s not, but she can show them where else she saw the flags.

      • Adam Bradford

        Yeah, I think that’s right. It’s more posturing to determine where the Vultures at currently; potentially either to get revenge or perhaps rescue Madison.

        • Andiamo

          I was thinking at first that Madison must be with the Vultures, and they wanted to rescue her. But if that were the case I would think Nick would’ve at least asked Ennis about her, or used him as leverage. So now I’m not so sure, it may just be revenge, but I still think Madison is alive.

          • TrentC

            If the Vultures have Madison, that would explain all of Nick’s actions in a heartbeat. If that’s the case, too bad he just didn’t say – Hey, they have one of our people and we need to find them. The Swat vehicle could be really handy in certain situations like that…dot dot dot.

          • Adam Bradford

            Yeah, I agree. I feel like there is a lot the Clark group would/should be verbalizing right now, but the writers want to keep us viewers in the dark.

      • TrentC

        Thanks. I do recall Strand saying later that the negotiation had changed and adding that Al must take them to where the flag people are. I was sure however he said at least twice before that, something about being told what the flags meant. Strange also he didn’t just say – We’ve met those people who make the flags. They did ____ to us.

  • Adam Bradford

    I know it adds more drama, but to me, the scene where Alicia hooks up the SWAT van to the tow truck was just ridiculous. I get the SWAT van is important, but you still can’t be so careless with your life. If this was done in a real world situation, they would have taken their time and killed the walkers one by one, or led them away from the vehicle, not ran through them in a kamikaze/suicide mission. So dumb.

    • TrentC

      It’s funny how a number of people can note the same thing. I too thought that Alicia got a raw deal having to go down there alone in the midst of walkers. Cull the herd first!

      Maybe it’s to show us what a badass Alicia can be, knowing that they’ll be less one badass before the episode is done?

      • Adam Bradford

        Maybe. They could be developing Alicia into her “The 100” alter ego. Maybe she’ll be the one that learns from Morgan how to kill more fiercely.

    • Matthew Murphy

      Alicia comes from the 100 the show where women basically have supernatural powers.

      • Adam Bradford

        Yeah, she must still have some of that night blood in her lol.

  • Matthew Murphy

    The only sad aspects about Nick’s death is that we still have to see him in flashback scene and that there’s still 2 Clark family members alive.
    If I was the actor who played Nick I’d want off the show too. They probably don’t even make mercy for Fear the Walking Dead because they know it would end up in landfills like the Rose Tico action figures are destined for.
    Don’t tease me with the theory of Madison being dead, probably too good to be true due.
    Also why doesn’t anyone look that different even though at least two years have passed? Alicia’s hair looks slightly different, that’s it. Carol, Darryl and Rick all look drastically different then when they started. Hell, Rick loops different from season to season.
    Either way it’s a positive move to kill Nick. Now just finish off the Clark’s and fire Gimple and the show has a shot.

    • TrentC

      lol, I was waiting for this. Although our opinions differ, I enjoy your Clark rants. I like Madison because she has the Tom Hanks Saving Private Ryan thing going. She was a mother and guidance councilor before the zombies.

      The scene with her and Strand at the bar in the hotel was great, and as Rob and Jessica mention, she also takes out people without remorse. Her moral compass is a little shy of true north, so I look forward to seeing who she’s going to kill every season.

      • Matthew Murphy

        I wouldn’t mind her as much if she wasn’t the lead of the show.

        • TrentC

          Just thought of something. If Madison is kidnapped or whatever, she won’t be aware of what happened to Nick. And when she does oh boy, thar’s gonna be a reckoning I think…

          • Matthew Murphy

            Oh yeah s will hit the fan. I just don’t think he’s really worth a rampage.

          • TrentC

            Strand – Madison I’m afraid I have some bad news.
            Madison – Is Alicia okay, tell me she’s okay!!!
            Strand – She’s fine. Nick is gone.

            Madison – Oh thank heavens.
            Weevils – 1
            Nick – 0
            Let’s get moving.