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Game Of Thrones Book Club: Spoiler Discussion Of “High Sparrow”

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Josh Wigler (@roundhoward) and Terri Schwartz (@terri_schwartz) are back with week three of their GAME OF THRONES BOOK CLUB season five coverage, talking about the second episode of the season, “High Sparrow.” Join Josh and Terri live to ask them your questions and send your comments about the season premiere, and what we expect to see in the episodes ahead.

SPOILER WARNING: The GAME OF THRONES BOOK CLUB podcasts are meant for people who have read George R.R. Martin’s novels that HBO takes its cues from. Proceed with caution!

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  • From the podcast with Rob: “A Strong Theory”… bwahahahahahaha Well Played.

    • Josh Wigler

      I felt pretty good about that one.

      • You should also feel good about playing off Rob in the “Trump is asking for a birth certificate” bit. He doesn’t even know how funny that was!

  • Brendan Fitzpatrick

    So, with Sansa at Winterfell, which is a change I love, personally, Who else might we get, that’s loyal to the Starks. We’ve had a Lyanna Mormont letter cameo. My theory is, since at the end of Season 3, Rickon is sent by Bran to The Last Hearth, to find the Umbers. Is it possible, we will get a return of the Great John, who we haven’t seen since season 2, and he will be the leader of the Northern Resistance to the Boltons, Taking the place of the Manderly’s on the show? The North Remembers.

    • LosPollosHermanos

      One of the plot blurbs for a later episode is something like ‘Sansa meets an old friend’ and it’s not Theon because an earlier blurb mentions that.

      I wonder if it’s an Umber or Rickon? would be cool

  • Brendan Fitzpatrick

    Can you guys discuss one of my favorite Crackpot Reddit Theories, from the books, which is that The High Sparrow is Howland Reed?

    • Dan Iacovitti

      Seconded. I don’t usually go in for crackpot theories, but this one I think there is very good (mostly circumstantial) evidence for. And it is just subtle enough to be true but not obvious, like physical description of the character and his statement that the plaza was befouled by the execution that was done there (of Howland’s good friend Ned)… Casting of Jonathan Pryce also supports the importance of the character.

      • Brendan Fitzpatrick

        Thanks Dan! As I said, it’s been one that i’ve held on to, cause it’s so fun, for a couple of years now. And yeah it’s mostly circumstancial evidence, but there’s nothing wrong with that. 🙂

  • Brendan Fitzpatrick

    The show seems to be implying, upon rewatch of the first scene this episode, that Jaquen Hagar is also Syrio Forel. Did you guys get the same impression? Are you okay with this?

    • Interesting impression. Faceless Men can’t change body shape though. I thought Sirio was in there just to remind everyone that Arya has had previous experience with Braavosi religion before and she should already know that the only god is Death.

  • Josh Wigler

    Folks, Book Club is on Thursday, not today. Scheduling mixup. We’ll get this fixed soon. Thanks!

    • Brendan Fitzpatrick

      Good! More time for me to post Ridiculous Questions and Theories!

    • And I managed to stay awake til midnight Perth, Australia time to finally watch a Book Club live. 3 year old children don’t let that happen too often. Will try again later in the week *fingers crossed*

  • Phil The-Issues-Guy

    Can we l;eave BOok club questions here or is there an email? Thanks Josh!

    • Josh Wigler

      Leave ’em here if you want, or e-mail: [email protected]

      • Phil The-Issues-Guy

        Thanks good sir

  • Phil The-Issues-Guy

    My Question for the show is: DO you either of you think that crow/raven we focused on for second when Theon was looking at the bodies was our Bran cameo of the season? Just found it funny how the shot hung there to maybe foreshadow a later event of Bran talking with Theon.

    • Brendan Fitzpatrick

      Hrm…Possible, and to expound, it’s still possible we get a Bran cameo this season, if he talks to Theon through the tree in the god’s wood, which is still standing…Isaac said they wouldn’t “appear” this season, doesn’t mean that Bran couldn’t be heard from. :0

  • Phil The-Issues-Guy

    Another one. What do you guys think the Red Priest in the streets saw in Tyrian? Was this a possible hint at his true parentage or something else? And was this first time we have had anyone on the show make any comparison with Lord of Light and Dragons.

    • LosPollosHermanos

      ‘ And was this first time we have had anyone on the show make any comparison with Lord of Light and Dragons.’

      Great pickup, and possibly indicative of where the books are going.

      I think ultimately the war is between The Others/The God of Death/Faceless Men vs Dragons/Lord of Light/R’hllor

  • Ashley Steen

    I couldn’t help but feel a little foreshadowing of the end of Pod when he was telling the story of him almost being hung. Brienne and Pod are still together in the woods not doing much, can we please say that there’s still a chance they run into the brotherhood?

  • Brendan Fitzpatrick

    Will we get Bran talking through the tree in the Godswood to Theon and/or Sansa?

  • HomerBrannon1

    Terri is crazy if she thinks Daenerys will die anytime soon. Dany has followed the hero’s path more closely than any other character. She was the unremarkable orphan girl who found her calling with the birth of her dragons. After early success, it’s common for the hero to get sidetracked. Dany must hit bottom before she can regain the path (or as Quaithe told her, she must go south before she can go north).

    Once Drogon turns the Daznak’s pit into his own fondue station and flies Dany away, she’ll be ready to turn toward Westeros. I’m not saying she’ll be on the Iron Throne at the end, but she’ll definitely survive until “A Dream of Spring.” Unless George RR Martin doesn’t survive, then she’s screwed.

    • Paul

      Yea I could easily see the series ending with Dany dead, but it won’t be until the second half of book 7.

      I jusy pray we don’t have to spend half of TWoW following Dany around the Dothraki Sea again.

      • HomerBrannon1

        No kidding. Hopefully she gets her butt to Meereen and quickly packs her things and heads to Westeros. Wishful thinking.

    • Terri Schwartz

      This line — “Dany has followed the hero’s path more closely than any other character” — is exactly why I feel like there’s a chance she kicks it. George is all about subverting expectations. But maybe I’m just trying to set myself up for sadness?

      • HomerBrannon1

        I guess it is hard to tell. To me, it seems like a narrative mistake to spend all this time with Dany and then bump her off before she gets to Westeros. Or maybe George f—s with all of us and has Cersei pay Arya to kill Dany.

  • Cashius_Flay

    Hey Guys,

    Am I being an optimist to think that there might be something more to Brienne and Pods storyline.

    I heard Josh say on the Live Podcast that he knows how they are going to get past Moat Cailin.

    Could we see either, the White Harbour (and Skagos) link, Brienne can then maybe try to find one more Stark.
    Or even more spoilery trip through the marshes and running into the H.Reed.

    • Brendan Fitzpatrick

      I feel like, yeah, it’s possible they run in to someone important on that path, maybe even Little Rickon and Osha, but I feel like they are a long way from the Last Hearth, seat of house Umber, where Rickon was supposed to be heading on the show…Maybe more likely they still run in to the Brotherhood w/o banners.

  • GeekFurious

    Sansa Stark is PUBLIC ENEMY #1 in King’s Landing. Why would Roose, who is not an idiot, agree to this marriage? It made sense for him to marry Ramsay and FAKE Arya but it makes absolutely no sense to accept a marriage to real Sansa. UNLESS Littlefinger goes to Cersei & says “hey, we are marrying Ramsay to fake Sansa, nudgenudge giggle.”

    • Brendan Fitzpatrick

      He says as much himself on the show that with Tywin dead, the crown has no power, so he’s not afraid of Cercei or Tommen. That’s why he thinks he can get away with it.

  • Paul

    I hope Sansa takes over for Manderly/LSH. As bookreaders, it’s nice to finally get some payback to the Freys/Boltons in FeastDance, I hope they don’t deprive the TV viewers of this.

  • Joel Rainey

    You guys are forgetting who Littlefingers new friend was in season 4. Wich could be the reason he shows his hand with Sansa the fact that Margery is now the queen of the seven kingdoms give him even less to fear of a lannister blow back

    • Josh Wigler

      Great point!

      • Brendan Fitzpatrick

        Wow, how did I not factor this point in to my Grand Northern Conspiracy? I feel like i’ve failed… Great point!