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HBO’s Vinyl | Most Shows Recapped Ep 21

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Josh Wigler (@roundhoward), Rob Cesternino (@RobCesternino), and Antonio Mazzaro (@acmazzaro) travel back in time to the 1970s to talk about sex, drugs, rock & roll, and HBO’s Vinyl, the new series starring Bobby Cannavale, and from the minds of Martin Scorsese, Terence Winter, and rock legend Mick Jagger.

The trio talks about Cannavale’s work as series lead Ricky Finestra, the use of music on the show, the use of flashbacks, the shocking events surrounding Andrew Dice Clay as Buck Rogers, the future of the series and its early second season renewal, and much more.

Next week’s Most Shows Recapped will see the return of Kevin Mahadeo to discuss Marvel’s Agent Carter.

  • TrentC

    I’ve watched the first two episodes, haven’t listened to the podcast yet. I was a Boardwalk Empire fan and the parallels are there. Tons of mood, along with great production values and acting. Similar to Boardwalk, still not sure if I like the mix of actual and fictional events. Finestra is a good lead character but since Cannavale plays him, I’m always expecting him to go into a rage mode and do something really violent. I am digging his fugue states when he hears something he likes and somehow knows it will be big in the music industry.

    Oh and I could wear those clothes all day long…the 70’s were an underrated time for a lot of reasons.

    • Antonio Mazzaro

      Finestra gets the best in the clothing department I feel like. Jules’ wardrobe is a little much for even my tastes.

      • TrentC

        Too much for your tastes? lol! I was 11,12,13 during the late 70’s and yes indeed I had similar fashions to some of those incredible flowered shirts Jules is sporting. Picture of me at a school dance in grade eight, hugely flared pants and four inch heels, along with an open collared shirt Tony Manero would be proud of.

        It seems this show can go a lot of ways and I’m going have faith the creative team doesn’t let it fall too far into the silly, nonsensical fiction category. I like the main plot of one guy at a struggling record company who has a good ear for the next thing.

  • Charles Bikle

    Only watched the pilot episode, which was waaay too long (get rid of those extended musical interludes !).

    I think really being into music and/or 20th century music history (which I’m not) is kind of a necessity for being into this show.

    As far as the Andrew Dice Clay murder mystery (never thought I’d write those words together), I’m wondering if that wasn’t based on a music biz event or urban legend – maybe David Geffen used a Grammy to bash in the brains of an out-of-control, coke-fueled Wolfman Jack ?

    • TrentC

      I like the Geffen/Wolfman Jack theory, having never heard it before. Listened to the podcast and watched episode three and I agree with a lot of what was said. I’m a huge music buff, play a little guitar and I think it does help with appreciating the show. I may take it a bit too far expecting perfection. Example – Peter Grant was a huge man and was notorious for intimidating business relations as well as handling every aspect of Led Zeppelin’s career. The guy on the show playing Grant came off as ‘small’ and annoying.

      Antonio mentioned that the show was a little heavy handed at times, throwing multiple artists at us. That may be true but then I recall reading about the localized music scene in NYC at the time. There were a handful of labels and producers, as well as limited live clubs to get recognized at. I’ve seen quite a few concert promotional posters containing upwards of six or eight great acts in one night, for the entry price of 1.50 or two dollars. Perhaps the show was accurate in portraying a lot of talent milling about the clubs before going on to sign multi-record deals. I thought the Alice Cooper story was funny and rang true on certain levels. He put out the last album with the Alice Cooper Band in 1973, then his next solo album was in 1975, so the show did pick up on the little known nuance of him moving away from his original band in the mid seventies.

      I had an older brother and sister who gave me a whack of records when I was a lad, everything from Iron Butterfly and Black Sabbath, to The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac. I distinctly remember having friends over when I was about 12, listening to Cooper’s Billion Dollar Babies and Schools Out, while the rest of the world was really getting into disco. This show is sure stirring up some ghosts for me.

      • Antonio Mazzaro

        Part of the reason this show chose 1973 is you can for sure trace Hip Hop, Disco, and obviously some Punk origins to NYC at this time. I just thought it was a little on the nose to have Cannavale’s character Forest Gump his way into the NY Dolls and DJ Kool Herc spinning breaks. If he ends up at the famous rec party where DJ Kool Herc starts MCing over the break, it will be for sure too much for me, like if Nucky Thompson had ended up at the STVal’s Day Massacre.

        • TrentC

          Yes the show portrays a convenient merging of a large variety of music and artists. I’m glad they’re showing the Hip Hop roots along with the punk and straight up rock acts. A lot of people don’t realize how far back Hip Hop went.

          I had to wonder if Scorsese and Winter asked Mick was what happening at the time and what sort of response he gave. Lots of heroin going on during the 70’s, self admitted by the Stones members.

  • Joe Marino

    This show seems to echo Neil Bogart, especially his start at Buddah Recrds, hey day at Casablanca Records which eventually went to Polidor, and his later punk adventure just before his death at Boardwalk Records.

    • Antonio Mazzaro

      interesting, I’ll have to look into that.