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The Leftovers Season 3 Episode 1 Recap | The Book of Kevin

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Who is Sarah Durst? It’s one of the many big questions left unanswered after the first episode of “The Leftovers” season three.

After more than a year away from the Kevin Garvey of it all, Josh Wigler (@roundhoward) and Antonio Mazzaro (@acmazzaro) join forces once again to discuss “The Leftovers,” one last time. The final season premiere of “The Leftovers,” called “Book of Kevin,” begins in the 1800s, takes place mostly three years after the season two finale, and ends with yet another time jump — and to say anymore about that here in explicit detail would be saying way too much… except to say, we hafta go back and watch that again.

Josh and Antonio will return this week for a “Leftovers” feedback show. Make sure to get your questions and comments in through Twitter and through our feedback form.

  • Thanks! I will share my thoughts after finishing the recap 😀

  • Matthew Murphy

    Easily the best show on TV right now. Totally recaptures that “Lost WTF,” feeling with future Nora.

  • Warwick Milner

    Great episode, Amazing show. The thing that ties it all together for me is the different visions of the Departure theme that get played at those important moments in the show. Not enough is said about the music of this show.

  • GeekFurious

    I think you guys are making the same mistake with the dog part you made during FARGO season 2 with the alien thing. You’re dismissing it because you don’t want to believe there is something to it. But the dog goes crazy when it finds the bagged peanut-butter sandwich after the shooting and Kevin is definitely noting it. This has to be important, even if it isn’t true. And the show is a lot about what people believe mattering as much as what is true.

    • Antonio Mazzaro

      dogs love peanut butter!

      but seriously, we’ll talk about this. i can’t tell if josh is trolling me or not but he tells me he’ll gladly talk about the dogpocalypse every week until it is proven to not matter.

      in the words of a dog, grrrrr….

  • I took the last scene as it was taking place in current time.. What if after the whole “Kevin cant die” revelation they show “Sarah” who is really the lady from 1844 but she never died because she never left Jarden and they are showing her doing the bird tending and just tossing the notes the preacher dude was reading is he just jaded by never being taken. Nora could be the decedent of the 1844 lady’s kid and thats why “Sarah” looks like Nora.

  • TrentC

    The Leftovers screwed with my head on the first episode of the season.

    Bravo

  • Charles Bikle

    Regarding Damon Lindelof, a creative writer, but from the get-go, this show lent itself to his biggest weakness as a writer, of just making it up as he goes and not really being obligated to giving his audience answers.

    Having said that, unlike LOST, this show has a stronger foundation and a definitive end date that Lindelof can better map out the episodes leading to the finale.

    I have faith that Lindelof can wrap this series up. I think the ending will be controversial, but for all the RIGHT reasons and not due to flawed storytelling.

    • GeekFurious

      Every writer makes it up as they go. The notion they don’t is ridiculous.

      • Charles Bikle

        I disagree and I think that’s a recent thing in mystery-related serialized fiction, with writers trying to stay ahead of the internet.

        • GeekFurious

          You are talking about writers who get the chance to make the whole show before they shoot it vs network writers who don’t. It’s an entirely different system. But they ALL make it up as they go. But on cable, especially premium cable, you have the chance to make it up before you shoot it. THAT is the difference.

          • Charles Bikle

            I still don’t think that’s true. Most shows have a Bible for where the show is going for at least, the first two seasons and have some kind of framework for where they expect the show to progress and eventually end.

            LOST didn’t have that. The show was built on a house of cards made of mysteries and unexplained questions, many of which, still haven’t been answered. Even into season 2, Lindelof & co had no idea who/what the Others were supposed to be (the episodes w/ Sawyer & Kate in the cage was written, specifically to stall for time as Lindelof revealed on the Kevin Pollack Chat Show).

            Breaking Bad, was kinda making it up as they went, but BB wasn’t really dealing with supernatural or sci-fi concepts like LOST was; BB’s questions were easy to resolve and, frankly, Vince Gilligan is just a better/ more experienced at juggling the storylines than Lindelof was.

          • Antonio Mazzaro

            The Wire bible/pitch doc is one of the coolest examples of this I have seen.

            There definitely seems to be a divide forming around this. The Better Call Saul writers are making it clear they are making it up as they go along sometimes even within the course of individual seasons. DL has said he views each of the seasons of The Leftovers as individual books. It sounds like they wrote the end of this season/series this year before they wrote the beginning so there does seem to be a rough plan in place for this year. But this isn’t a series where they had the ending in mind since midway through season one or whatever.

            EDIT:

            http://kottke.org.s3.amazonaws.com/the-wire/The_Wire_-_Bible.pdf

            Here is The Wire bible

          • TrentC

            Thanks Antonio I’ve never seen one of the these. The opening paragraph is almost a game ender describing the new police and players procedural.

            I didn’t know it both outlines the intent of the story while including character sketches and basic scripts for the first couple of episodes.

            This excerpt made me giggle:

            8) Santangelo – White homicide detective, 50-55, who, as the saying goes, couldn’t track a bleeding elephant through fresh snow.

          • Charles Bikle

            In making it up as they go for BB & BCS, it’s not really an issue as neither show is built on a pyramid of mysteries like LOST was, so there’s no pressure for the writers to have to explain anything.

            Also, the nature of being an independent meth cooker/dealer, is that everything can change on a dime, so the make each ep. as they go strategy isn’t that jarring – as the audience, we’re expecting things to suddenly change out of left field because of the premise.

  • Charles Bikle

    One thing I’ve noticed about the Leftovers is the absence of any real discussion about the Departure being related to E.T.s/UFOs/alien abduction theories; you’d think that those would get floated out there more (i’m also curious if the bok this show was based on, discussed that at all ?).

    Maybe everyone in the world, just subconsciously knows that whatever “The Departure” was, it was spiritual in nature.

    • TrentC

      You made me think of something. Not only are there no UFO abduction theories in the show, I can’t recall hearing any theories attached to the departure. Am I forgetting something?

      • Charles Bikle

        I think the first episode went into that a little and the latest episode had a Departure theory (I don’t want to spoil it for anyone).

        • TrentC

          Yes I had only heard one theory before I made the post four days ago. University people who visited Nora during ‘Lens’.

          I assume it’s probably because the writers didn’t want to get too heavy into “show’ speculation behind the reason. Well done by them because I didn’t notice until the final season.

  • Fat Tyson Apostol

    I thought bringing back Dean with his absurd dog theory was a way of the writers poking fun at all the crazy fan theories on Reddit and forums about the show. Tommy killing Dean is like the showrunners shooting down all the absurd conspiracy theories, very meta.

    • TrentC

      I thought the same thing and got a little sense of house cleaning during the opening episode. Dean gets popped, John is now with Laurie, (where is Erika?) and of course, that jarring scene showing Evie and Meg getting blown up (apparently).

      Out of all of the mystical stuff that went on, I found the scene with John and Laurie fleecing people for money interesting. They changed a once legitimate process formerly performed by Wayne (?), and turned it into a carnival act. I wonder why?

      • Andiamo

        I think the John/Laurie act was out of a legitimate desire to help people, but just without any legitimate “powers,” other than perception. They shredded the money, so it’s not about fleecing people.

        Since Laurie is a psychologist, I think she figured out how to “con” people into getting the help they genuinely need. She’s basically just doing a quick psychological assessment and determining what people need to hear most in order to heal.

        Since people are more interested in the supernatural post-departure, and they’re especially open to “miracles” in Miracle, they add the “magic” of the palm reading and the Holy Hug. People want a quick fix, and they want help, but they’re still skeptical, so they add the Pat Benatar info so people believe in John’s “ability” and are open to him. I think they make people pay, because without money people don’t think something has value.

        Oddly, in this world, proving that they have a “power” is what is getting people to listen to basic psychology.

        P.S. Ragnar, I’m so excited for this show to be back! If the quality stays like this, this show is on track to be my favorite show of all time.

        • TrentC

          What you say makes sense and is probably correct. Those two characters have been through the proverbial meat ringer in different ways. John being a big non believer and Laurie with her experiences with the Guilty Remnant. As you outline, they’re now providing a service and it’s positive. But the entire process is predicated on being false and something both of them don’t believe in. So it makes me wonder… why? For some reason it stood out to me because of the two characters involved.

          As Antonio and Josh mentioned, the show seems to be exposing some things from the past as being false to the viewers, almost to imply – Hey people, some of this was BS, we got you and moving forward try to be a little more wary. Then of course they’re going to hit us with some out of this world metaphysical stuff to let us know – Yes, the mystery is still alive and real and even more wonderful in season three.

          I like it when a series has a defined end point which allows the writers and producers to end it on their own terms. In this case though, three seasons won’t be enough. I too consider this one on my top viewing experiences on television. I can’t see how it will end ‘well’ within seven more episodes. We’ll probably be basket cases after the final episode.

          *I’ve recently got a Dean Winchester haircut, so Ragnar may be passe. Although both are much better than my usual nicknames that can’t be printed here.

          • Andiamo

            “What you say makes sense and is probably correct.”
            That sounds like a fortune cookie saying I would like to keep in my wallet 😉

            Laurie did do the Holy Tommy thing for a while even though she knew he had no real powers, so I guess she’s not above the lie for the greater good. John is so different now it’s hard to know where he’s coming from.

            Agreed three seasons is just too short. They seem to obsessed with threes on this show like Matt is obsessed with sevens, so good for them, but not good for me, or you.

            *I’ll bet that suits you. Is that a thing though? Like did you say give me the Dean Winchester?

          • TrentC

            I hate it when I post in a hurry. Should have used the more elegant expression of ‘I agree’. It’s always nice when someone articulates your thoughts well on the internet. Going back to our mutual love of British crime series (I didn’t forget..), we seem to have the same general likes and appreciation for certain shows. Your take on John and Laurie shared my thoughts.

            Those people in The Leftovers all seem to have witnessed something profoundly surreal beyond the initial departures, so when people like Laurie and John start doing something helpful, yet false, it seems even more strange.

            Matt and his numbers. One Matt moment I loved was Kevin outright saying – He’s writing a gospel about me. Man I laughed.

            *full disclosure on the hair thing and Holy Wayne am I embarrassed. I go to a discount hair cut place and describe what I want. The girl pulls out a book of male haircut models and on the first page is my man Dean. I point and say – Something like that please. Then I pray that my hair host is more than three hours out of haircut school. A friend said I looked like a cop now so that in itself is a little supernatural..

          • Andiamo

            Lol. Your haircut story made made my day. 🙂

  • Fat Tyson Apostol

    Could the Sarah Durst in Australia scene be Norah’s own ‘hotel’?

  • Rubicon

    Great first episode and podcast, fellas.

    Antonio, future Nora’s car wouldn’t run on gasoline it would run on petrol, mate:)

    I like how Josh’s Lost-Wounds are still so raw. He is so tentative about committing, he doesn’t want to get his little heart broken again.

  • Andiamo

    I’m so excited for the show and the podcast to be back!

    A few random thoughts about the episode:

    The Senator that Dean referred to was named Y. Woodrow Huffman, initials YWH, which is a whole lot like YHWH or Yahweh. Dean’s theory was nutty, but any more implausible than a lot of biblical stories? (No offense to religious people.)

    “Sarah” Durst wasn’t paid in money. The woman handed her what looked like rolled leather straps. Also interesting was the way she phrased the question “Does the name Kevin mean anything to you?” Maybe her answering “No” has more to do with the name not being important, not the person, especially given that her name is no longer Nora.

    The death of the Guilty Remnant (living reminders of the departure), has spawned a new group who act as living reminders of the Guilty Remnant. Only they’re dressed in red and screaming.

    Erika and Lily are both gone. Is it possible they are together? Either Erika could’ve taken Lily, or Nora could’ve given her to Erika.

    • TrentC

      Going backwards…Nora did a lot to keep Lily, I wonder what would inspire her to think Lily would be better off with Erika? Minor note – this entire episode was one of the most thought provoking time shifts ever.

      Are Meg and Evie really gone?I think at least Meg is still somehow alive.

      Nora ages a whole bunch and has a new name. A look passed through her eyes when answering about Kevin. Judging by her gray hair and lined face it appears at least 30 years have passed from this ‘current’ time.

      The senator initials = Yahweh is a pretty good stretch. Not sure if most of the viewing public would recognize this. The Dean story was at the forefront of the episode and quite blatant in it’s finish (yucky close up headshot by Tommy and sprayed on Kevin). I always suspect when writers bring up a character from the past and make it a shocking ‘set piece’ of the episode. The dog dragging away the sandwich seemed telling at first, then hilarious in retrospect. I for one want to see the dog story as being something deeper, if only to vindicate Dean from his season one killing spree. At the same time I don’t buy Dean’ theory.

      • Andiamo

        I don’t have any guesses on motivation, somehow I just like the idea that Erika and Lily are together, especially better than the possibility that Lily’s mother came back for her like Antonio mentioned. It’s also a handy way to keep Erika a big part of the show since she and John are done.

        I don’t know about Evie, but I just can’t see that being the end for Meg. Or maybe I just don’t want it to be. Evie wrote “What are we waiting for?” Meg said Evie was better at this than her, and maybe she should be the leader. Then she told the Siegfried and Roy story. What was the point of that scene if they were both just going to be dead moments later? Of course the answer could be that sometimes there is no point.

        Is it possible Meg knew the attack was coming and she betrayed the GR? The cops knew about it and got out of there, maybe she did too? Or maybe she just figured it out when the hole was cut in the wall. Do you make
        anything of that story? Who’s the tiger in that scenario? What were they waiting for? Did I mention that I love this show.

        The Yahweh thing is a total stretch, but I think it’s strangely close enough that it could be something that would bolster the theory for Dean, not that it does for me. I don’t buy Dean’s theory either, but something weird was going on with the dogs. Right now I feel like Dean was just there to show how crazy people can get in the attempt to find meaning. Even Kevin looked twice at the dog with the sandwich because nobody knows what to make of anything, and they can’t really trust their own logic anymore.

        • TrentC

          I agree.

          lol! Oh, there were some questions in there too. Bringing Meg and Evie back for one scene is a little cruel. If it was just an exterior shot of the Visitor Center getting bombed with no dialogue, the skeptic in me might agree their part on the show is finished. And let’s be blunt. You don’t bring back someone like Liv Tyler, have her tell a creepy analogy about Vegas show tigers ripping faces off, and then toast her in a drone strike. She went down into the secret cellar and will emerge unscathed and disturbing as ever.

          Erika and Lily are more puzzling. John appears to have moved on without issue and he seems like the type of dude who would hang onto his wife if she died or left him.

          My thoughts on Dean are similar. Then again I suspect that everything that seems out of sorts on the show is legitimately weird. Out of man of science and man of faith, I’m definitely the man of faith.

          They kept showing Kevin’s flashbacks from Death Hotel-land juxtaposed over his normal actions throughout this episode. Was that to imply to us that everything he experienced was his mind working overtime?

          not a chance..

          • Andiamo

            I just took Kevin’s flashbacks as showing how much they haunt him still.

            Interesting…I am most definitely the “man of science.” But not in an everything can be explained logically kind of way. I believe, like Antonio was talking about, that things that are unknown are not necessarily unknowable, we just haven’t figured the answers out yet.

            Things like psychics who help find missing kids, that’s bizarre stuff. I’m just less likely to say “I don’t get it so it must be supernatural” (Looking at you DW). I’m more likely to say “Maybe it has to do with quantum entanglement or dark matter/energy, or some other bizarre but scientifically motivated answer.” (Why am I putting quotes like I ever actually say these things?)

          • TrentC

            Yes in life I’m very much the man of science and agree with Antonio’s/your take saying sometimes we don’t know why that crazy wacky thing just happened. 200 years later we absolutely know why. In fact I have a homemade saying called The Galileo Syndrome which simply means science thought a theory was truth for a certain amount of time, then wiser heads prevail to dispel the theory. Heck in the 1500’s Galileo was almost prosecuted and killed for saying – Hey peoples, maybe the Earth revolves around the sun?

            I should of said – Regarding this show, I am the man of faith.

            One thing I want to see explored is the gunshot wound. Kevin keeps ignoring anyone who brings it up, so maybe a little flashback to that night/morning would help?

            Like your prediction and I’ll go one step further. Nora was the man of faith after something extraordinary happened to Kevin,. Then there was some loss that cause the lack of faith and that’s why we see her in the future alone, doing the dove disposal. (message disposal!)

          • Andiamo

            Ah, I see, that makes sense. The Galileo Syndrome, I like it, and may steal it.

            There is really no logical way to make sense of things like the rebirth after bird burying and Kevin burying; Or Patti, or the hotel. And it’s not even that interesting to try. So I’m more open to just going with the supernatural side of some of it too.

            I am curious about Kevin’s seeming inability to die and whether it’s tied to Miracle, as opposed to the idea that Nora as the lens is unconnected to a place.

            That’s an interesting idea. The line about there being more doves than usual and “Love is in the air,” I wonder if they reconnect on their perspectives after going through the gamut.

            It was so brilliant to have that gap at the beginning and add that scene
            at the end. It really sends your head spiraling. As if the stuff they
            actually show isn’t thought provoking enough.

          • TrentC

            Antonio touched on this briefly. What did you think of that cave n earthquake scene from prehistoric times? I assume it was the Miracle area and more specifically really close to that lake where the girls went missing/Kevin tried to drown in. The season three opener went back in time as well, so there does seem to be a loose trend there.

          • Andiamo

            Oof this might be a long answer (big surprise). At the time that scene seemed so out of place, looking back on it I think it had all the same themes the show keeps repeating about loss, survival, coping mechanisms, the role of family (biological or adopted), how individuals search for meaning, and how stories/religions/mythologies arise as a way to make sense of a confusing world.

            I think showing the links to the past is an attempt to show that these are questions and ideas that recur throughout time as a basic condition of humanity. Even visually they
            have linked each of these time jumps. The cave woman scene at the lake led right into the girls swimming. The Millerite woman laid down, and it became the Guilty Remnant laying down. And Kevin looked up at the doves, and it switched to “Sarah” collecting doves.

            The episode with the cave was called Axis Mundi, so they’re calling attention to the idea that there are certain places that have special spiritual importance and act as a link between different planes. The cave was in the same
            area in Jarden where the girls were and Kevin didn’t drown and also where he kills Patti in the well.

            I remember reading that some of the earliest religious evidence is found in cave paintings, and that caves were likely early “churches.” With Reza Aslan as a show advisor I would imagine that choice wasn’t an accident.

            The woman who found her and saved her baby lived to tell her version of that “magical” act. Then that meaning leads to a greater mythology/religion/cult as seen through the perspective of the person who “saw the sign.” We keep
            seeing this theme in the show in the Millerites, the GR, the
            “lens”people, Matt’s Gospel of Kevin, etc.

            I think it’s either that this event, mom dying/baby’s birth was the either the origin of Jarden’s specialness, or it at least showed that the departure wasn’t the beginning of “special” things happening in that area. And
            regardless, it’s become an origin story in the hotel world.

            They showed in International Assassin that some of the mythology (in the hotel world) was built around this cave woman story. They showed in International Assassin that the well where Patti dies was called the Orphan’s Well,
            which is directly related to the pregnant cave woman’s baby. And the little girl Patti said something about how the
            ancient tribes built it, and it acts as a conduit between the living and spirit worlds. When he pushes little Patti into the well you hear the hawk cry, like in the cave woman story, and when he kills Patti there’s the earthquake that collapses the well around him, then he’s reborn.

            Patti (in the hotel) also mentioned something to Kevin about how their caves had collapsed and they had to decide whether or not to move on. There’s also the cave in Australia where that guy claims to have emerged unable
            to die, like Kevin.

            That’ll teach ya to ask me a simple question. What do you think?

          • TrentC

            Whew, look at the big brain on Andi! 🙂

            From your post this is how I’ve felt about a few of the scenes, the prehistoric cave flashback included. “… these are questions and ideas that recur throughout time as a basic condition of humanity.”

            Writers could be giving us examples of other things in history that have no bearing on what’s happening to Kevin and the crew. As you mention, they may just be illustrating the fact that humans have been in the dark before and never did get an explanation.

            I asked Charles Bikle if he could remember any time during the seasons where we saw people postulating actual theories for the departure? Other than the university/demon people that harassed Nora, I can’t think of one instance.

            And I think this. The well of many worlds shows up in various mythologies, as well as in the game D&D. We keep seeing references to a passage or as you say, a conduit to other worlds. I feel the International Assassin story line is the key to everything in this show. Whether Kevin is dying, or trying to die, or did die years ago, his story and the conduit he may be traveling is a main focal point of the mystery.

            The recent flashback to the 1800’s is curious because the date kept changing. We never did see a resolution that featured anyone vanishing. So the puzzling part of that is – Who was sending the notes? And the companion question would be, we saw older Nora/Sarah and she had been collecting a lot of doves. Who is sending doves to her?

            As interesting as the well/bridge to other planes is, there’s one thing that bothers me. Wasn’t one of the departures a living embryo in the womb? For me, that rules out strange magnetic areas, legendary caves and wells…and any sort of ‘natural’ earthly phenomenon that could be considered a cause.

            Conversely, the writers are leaning so hard into the spirituality aspect it almost feels like it can’t part of the explanation now. And I have to assume Lindelof won’t pull a cop out like Kevin has been dead for the past three years and this is his version of purgatory.

          • Andiamo

            You know it’s funny because as much as I have been thinking about the religion/mythology aspect, I’ve almost completely stopped thinking about the mystery of the departure itself, just how that mystery is causing people to think and act now.

            The Flashback which started the season was loosely based on the real religion of Millerism. They kept making calculations based on the prophecies and numbers in the bible, that they thought would predict the second coming of Christ, and the believer’s ascension to heaven (Don’t quote me, but I think that’s about right.) The numbers kept changing because they were wrong, and instead of rejecting their faith, they assumed the calculations were just a little off. But the more they got it wrong, many people did start to lose faith, which we saw, which led to the Great Disappointment. I’m assuming the pigeons were coming from the main person/chapter that was doing the majority of the calculations, telling people when to get ready. That woman lost her family because she chose to hold fast to her faith instead.

            This really directly relates to what’s happening now with Matt and also the skywriting people. The common threads are that something occurs which people don’t understand, which they ascribe sacred meaning to, they use that meaning to extrapolate about God’s will and make predictions about the future. Matt is combining the Departure with the 7s from the bible stories to come up with the same basic idea. That’s partly why he is so convinced that Kevin is the Messiah, showing up on the 7th anniversary of the Departure. The skywriting people are doing the same thing with the calculations, but using it to make assumptions about the end of the world.

            What I think is interesting though is that Kevin does not seem like a Prophet/Messiah at all, he only does to Christians like Matt and Michael (and John I guess) because that is already their perspective. Reza Aslan did some interviews early on talking about how Kevin is like a Shaman figure (or just mental, but I just don’t think that’s realistic anymore.) Messiahs or prophets get messages from God. Shaman’s are able to communicate on different planes, move between the natural and spirit worlds. That sounds way more like the way the show is presenting Kevin.

            But people tend to interpret things based on the beliefs they already have, or the common beliefs of the
            time. Like when someone today sees a “religious” image in a piece of toast, they immediately think it’s Jesus, they don’t think “Oh that looks like Zeus.”

            I don’t think that what happened with the departure worldwide has anything to do with the whole Axis Mundi/ Cave/ Well/Shaman thing. But the fact that no one departed from Miracle may somehow be connected to it. I honestly am not even going to try to understand why the departure happened.

            I also think the International Assassin business is pretty key. I have to watch that again. Hopefully that will make some more sense when they go to Australia.

            Oh, and Norah/Sarah’s dove messages had to be coming from the church where she dropped them off. They only know how to fly home. So people are either writing messages at that church and letting the birds go, or they could take a bird with them, I guess, and just release it later. The question I have is, are the messages intended for Nora/Sarah, or is Kevin living there, or someone else a bunch of people are interested in communicating to?

          • TrentC

            Good stuff Andi, thanks. I only have a couple of things to add.

            I found Matt’s seven year prediction a little loose. Meaning he just assumes seven is magical or a powerful number and according to him it ‘must’ be when the next departure is scheduled. Unless I missed something, that’s quite the leap of faith on his behalf. (see what I did there? hahaha).

            I’m just like Kevin, a reluctant messiah. It’s part of our humble nature…and I do grow a beard weekly so maybe…

            Seriously, you’d think at one point Kevin would stop his denial of any and all things. My Lord, he’s been through more mystical and spiritual instances than the entire cast combined. Even the shot of him opening his closet in current times gave me a jolt as a viewer. How can he continue to remain unaffected?

          • Andiamo

            Matt is kind of grasping, right? But I just read the 7 years thing relates directly to the rapture too. So, I guess Matt is really going there! A major turn around from Season 1 anti-rapture Matt. But he’s kind of hedging his bets too, because he said to Kevin something like it may or may not happen.

            Season 2 Matt needed Mary’s ‘miracle” to restore his faith. Now Season 3 Matt quoted that passage to Kevin “If you come to me, but will not leave your family, you cannot be my follower.” Dude’s been all over the place. (Yes I’m the dork taking notes)

            Lol. Wow you are humble!

            Poor Kevin just doesn’t want to be crazy…Hell, if I came back to life after clawing my way out of the ground, you can bet I’d change my “(Wo)man of science” tune real quick. But some people are just stubborn I guess.

          • TrentC

            Sorry about the messiah complex, I was just recalling someone’s comment on the show to Kevin – Well you have a beard now = Jesus. I think Matt said it. My weekly beards are a result of laziness.

            Kevin may have a more balanced mind if he simply accepts weird crap is happening and he’s right in the middle of the biggest pile.

            Gotta say though…after people vanish right in front of your eyes and it’s accepted that millions all over the world have done the same thing, how can a person then say – Oh don’t be reed-dick-you-loss, when faced with additional oddities?

          • Andiamo

            No, don’t be sorry, I knew what you meant. I was just busting your holy balls.

            And I read your comment about the Carrie Coon love. I will fight you for her. 😉

          • TrentC

            I posted the messiah thing and don’t be ridiculous phonetic catch phrase above before the episode aired. Made me laugh a little when both seemed to figure into the proceedings.

            The Nora and Kevin scenes were fabulous, the Nora and Mark Lin Baker scene was fabulous, Nora throughout the entire episode was quite fabulous. Her and Kevin on a road trip to Australia is going to be wondrous (one step up from fabulous).

            Carrie Coon portrays strength, vulnerability and sexiness all in one look. I’m a big believer in equality, but I’ll boot your Jersey butt all over the block on my way to giving Carrie a bouquet of snuggles n love.

          • Andiamo

            Oh man, it’s a sign! You might want to hold on to that beard.

            Seriously, I’m gonna cry when this show ends. I can’t even take how good it is.

            Lol. I’m only 5’4″, but I’m scrappy….. And Jersey vs. the North Pole in a fight, get outta here. (That’s my best Jersey accent.) Also mesmerizing was Regina King on that trampoline. I guess I’m not above objectifying women because, just wow. (She’s also smart and talented and probably makes a mean scrambled egg, there I feel better.)

          • TrentC

            Regina was great in a rather uncomfortable role on American Crime as well. I only objectify women on screen when they’re hot! Oops that wasn’t nice. I’m almost Probst’s age so I never quite know how to navigate this century’s acceptable forms of flattery. You saw my Facebook pic from 2013. I’m 6′ and 210 lbs, and have taken some self defense, so fuggedaboutit if you wanna scrap. We’ll have to verbally joust over important things like who’s the best Survivor and did season three of The Leftovers eclipse season three of American Idol?

            *just kidding, I’ve never watched a season of American Idol.

  • Luke Keatinge

    Australian here – Nora could’ve easily been fifteen minutes from population. Australia is very barren

  • Matthew Deknatel

    Referring to the last scene. Could this be a play on the denial of Peter towards Jesus? (if Kevin ends up being a Jesus type character)