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Mr. Robot | Season 2 In Review With Rob Cesternino

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Hello, friend! Welcome to the Mr. Robot podcast on Post Show Recaps. Every week, Josh Wigler (@roundhoward) and Antonio Mazzaro (@acmazzaro) discuss the latest episode of Mr. Robot, covering each and every hour of the USA Network drama’s second season.

With season two in the rearview mirror, Josh and Antonio embark on some bonus post-season coverage. Up first: Rob Cesternino (@robcesternino) gives his take on Mr. Robot for the first time on Post Show Recaps, after recapping the season for Screen Junkies all season long. Rob articulates his frustrations with the season, throws support behind his favorite characters, and busts out his long awaited Terry Colby impression.

Stay tuned for more podcasts as the Mr. Robot post-season continues.

  • TrentC

    Is anybody else seeing this right now?

    Rob podcasts about TV somewhere else? Whoa

    Another Mr Robot podcast, super cool…

    • Christine Larivière

      I liked the Angela story, too.

  • jessgute

    I’ve loved the Mr. Robot recaps, thanks for covering this awesome show! I do have some questions about stage 2 that I’m guessing Antonio might have already thought about and have answers to given his legal background.

    As far as credit card debt, personal loans, etc., I understand the effectiveness of destroying paper records and eliminating a trail. Or, at least, I assume that is how it works because that is not a field I have any experience in. However, when it comes to mortgage loans, commercial leases, etc., how would destroying paper records in one location truly eliminate the debt? I work as a real estate paralegal and there is never a shortage of involved parties asking for copies of the loan documents, in addition to the copies that we keep for our files, on top of the fact that there is always some sort of document recorded at the county level, even if it’s just a short memorandum. Even a standard residential purchase transaction has a seller, a seller’s attorney, a buyer, a buyer’s attorney, a bank, a bank attorney, a title company, etc. At least 4 of those parties are going to walk away with copies of most, if not all, of the loan documents.

    Let’s say fsociety successfully destroys the records and you had a mortgage on your home that was held by E Corp – how would that action eliminate the debt? That lien on the property doesn’t disappear, it’s a cloud on the title that is going to be a gigantic pain in the butt (if not impossible) to get satisfied if you ever want to sell your home or refinance. If your county courthouse has a recorded mortgage against your property for $250,000 borrowed from E Corp and you have one last payment of $10 until it’s paid off, then destroying the bank records is just going to make it near impossible to prove that you have paid down your mortgage at all.

    Am I just overestimating the percentage of paper records that would be related to real estate transactions? Is Stage 2 about eliminating paper records for personal loans and credit card debt only? Isn’t that information also sent to credit reporting agencies that would still have their records? I don’t understand how eliminating paper records would do more than just create more of a hassle for the people who have been making their payments.

    I am willing to suspend my disbelief if that is what the show requires. However, given their attention to detail on so many levels, I feel like I must be missing something. Does Mr. Robot take place in a world where only one party in a transaction keeps one copy of all records and moves them to one location?

    Wow, this was supposed to be a quick comment and it really went off the rails as I was typing…

    TLDR = Stage 2: Do we need to assume that these paper records are all of the originals and copies of everything from everywhere?

    • TrentC

      I did the same thing with my ‘quick’ observation, don’t feel bad :)

      And I had the same question that you pose above. Let’s say all of E-corp paper records are blown up. It would cause (in my humble estimation) millions of individual conflicts with E-corp, because people who have kept hard copies of everything from their bank account records to mortgages to personal loans to money paid to Best Buy on that TV, only have one side of the transaction.

      No one could reconcile anything either way. That you’ve paid 100000 on your mortgage thus far, or that E-corp feels you still owe 300000 on the same mortgage. Even if a person had paper slips of each payment, the other side wouldn’t have the companion piece to validate the action(s).

      It wouldn’t create freedom for the average citizen, it would create more chaos. It wipes your debt yes, but also destroys any proof of what you own or are paying to own.

    • Spencer Watson

      I think what TrentC and jessgute say here is interesting. I think this says two things about Elliott’s plan. First, it is more about taking down E-Corp than about “saving the people”. This is the direct conflict between the “two halves” of Elliott: Mr Robot wants to take down E-Corp where Elliott wants to save the people. They cooperate for the tasks where their goals overlap. The hack together with stage 2 will (probably?) take down E-Corp but it likely won’t actually save the people from their debt, at least not their mortgage debt.

      Second, this “plan” isn’t very well thought through. Elliott didn’t take into account how many of the little people (the sandwich shop frequented by DDP, for example) would be negatively affected by this. In many ways he could be helping the powerful forces above to consolidate financial control of all the little bits of cash movements that happen with small businesses and whatnot.

      It reminds of something else. I play strategy board games. We have one friend who we never let play because of a particular strategy he uses. He has decided that he’s not good enough at strategy to win out on his own so instead of attempting to win he plays to lose and, in doing so, decides the winner by focussing all of his attacks on one player to his own detriment. This is, more or less, how the world is treating Elliott. He was a player who couldn’t win with his own efforts/resources. But he could be used by one player (dark army) to take out another player (E-Corp) and effectively decide the outcome. The “system” consistently works to not allow people like Eiilott to “play the game”. Am I “the system” to my friend’s “Elliott”?

  • Bryant Hughes

    It was like Sea World when Joanna got the greatest gift from Scott