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Once Upon a Time, Season 4 Episode 16 Recap | Best Laid Plans

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Mike Bloom (@amikebloomtype) and Curt Clark (@curtclark) are back from buying some dragon baby shower gifts for Maleficent to recap episode 16 of season 4’s Once Upon a Time, entitled, Best Laid Plans.”

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  • Kathie

    Hi guys, I enjoyed the podcast as always! Good to have a “Harold and the Purple Crayon” reference. 🙂
    When August mentioned “Walt” as an author, at that moment I actually thought they were implying that this current author was Walt. I did find that an odd thing for them to do! But for him to specifically list “a man named Walt” among the authors – why would Emma and Snow and David, etc., find “Walt” to be significant or even familiar? Is he anyone, as far as they are concerned?
    I’m looking forward to what they do with Lily now. That was a long wait for that shoe to drop!

    • Craig

      I think the “Walt” reference may have been the show making a reference to Walt Disney.

      • Kathie

        Oh yeah, I got it. 🙂 That’s why I thought it would be weird for the show to be saying Walt Disney was the current, slightly evil author, which I now realize they weren’t saying. But now I think it’s odd that August would hit that reference so hard in the room. Walt Disney wouldn’t mean anything to those characters, would it?

        • Its Me

          I totally agree @coaster00:disqus I feel like they just wrote that in just to write it in as a name drop. I actually didn’t like it. I thought it was cheesy 🙁

          • Its Me

            ps I tagged Kathie, idk why it changed to coaster00

  • Matt The Golem

    That was a LOT of talking about OUAT ! Nice job guys. If you like the meta aspect of this show, please check out Grant Morrison’s run on the Animal Man comic. In the issue ‘Deus Ex Machina’ the main character realizes he is being drawn and scripted by some external entity and actually ends up meeting his own ‘storyteller’.

  • Axed84

    RE: Emma’s reaction to her parents’ confession (which you guys thought was somewhat out of character or a bit much for Emma)

    While I think it’s true that Emma was pissed at her parents for lying to her, I don’t think that’s all that’s happening here. First of all as far as the lying thing is concerned, you may recall that several weeks ago Hook was being super shady about his connection to Ursula and told Emma that he didn’t have a history with her. Emma’s response was that she won’t be upset over the fact that he has a past with Ursula, but that she will not tolerate him lying to her and claiming that he doesn’t know Ursula at all. Emma is a woman who started the series as somebody who was completely closed off to those around her and who had immense trust issues as a result of her experiences growing up in the foster care system, and so I don’t think it’s far-fetched for her to be upset with her parents for keeping secrets from her even if they may not appear to be huge secrets. It takes a lot for Emma to finally trust somebody and let them in, and so on the flip side of that it doesn’t much at all for her to have that trust broken.

    But what I think Emma is REALLY reacting to in this scene is the story of what Snow and Charming did to Maleficent’s child in the process of trying to ensure Emma’s future. Because Emma has an extremely difficult time trusting anybody I would imagine that she would be shaken to her core by the realization that her parents did something so terrible and atrocious to an innocent (Maleficent’s child, and to a certain extent — in this situation, at least — Maleficent herself). Emma has spent nearly her entire life running from people and families who were less than pure and good and noble, and to find out that her own parents who are supposed to be the “heroes” were capable of something so terrible must have been a crushing blow to her. Just look at Mary Margaret’s speech to Regina at the end of “Unforgiven,” the second episode in the Season 4B story arc (which Brent even quoted in that episode’s recap podcast):

    “That’s why Emma can never find out what I’m about to tell you. She’s finally starting to open up her heart. And if she learns the truth, if we let her down, she’ll lose faith in us, and it could send her tumbling down a dark path. Because when you betray the people you love… When you make them see the worst parts of you… What you’ve done changes everything. There’s no going back. You’ve shattered the bonds you worked so hard to forge. And the stronger those bonds once were… The more difficult they are to put back together… If they can be repaired at all.”

    • Axed84

      (And I’m sorry for my long-winded comment…maybe I’d make a good replacement Author if this current one continues to not work out for the Sorcerer?)