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Seinfeld: The Big Salad | Episode 88 Recap Podcast

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Rob Cesternino and Akiva Wienerkur continue their journey to watch every Seinfeld episode as they discuss Season 6, Episode 2, “The Big Salad.”

Rob Cesternino and Akiva Wienerkur were glad that Newman never dated their wives so they could discuss this week’s recap of the latest episode in their run through the Seinfeld series. This week, they took on “The Big Salad”, which first aired September 29, 1994 as part of season six. The episode was written by the Larry David.

First Akiva shared this week’s Seinfeld news. Julia Louis-Dreyfus turned 55 this week, and Jason Alexander appeared on The Nerdist Podcast, where he discussed the unique contract negotiations the cast had between season eight and nine. He also mentioned how he thought a spin off with Jackie Childs, or the Seinfeld and Costanza parents would have been great.

In this episode, Jerry dates a woman Margaret, but after seeing George and his new girlfriend trying so hard, he feels like dating is too embarrassing, so he wants to avoid go outside with her. Things turn further worse when he learns that Margaret once dated Newman, but he dumped her. He can’t let this go, learning from Newman that he just didn’t find her pretty enough, souring Jerry on Margaret altogether to the point he can’t even kiss her. Newman takes every opportunity to needle Jerry about this, which further turns off Jerry, leading him to break it off with Margaret.

George is dating a sophisticated woman named Julie, who’s interests are far different than his. In an effort to impress her, he buys Elaine a big salad at Monk’s, though he can’t let it go when Julie takes credit for the purchase when giving it to Elaine. In a later scene, George tells Elaine how he actually bought the salad, though Elaine is not impressed at all. Elaine complains to Julie about how George wanted credit for the salad purchase, causing Julie to break up with him.

Elaine is tasked by Mr. Pitt to find a specific mechanical pencil. When the creepy salesman at the stationary store tries to hit on her and get her number, she gives Jerry’s number to thwart him off. The salesman calls Jerry’s several times to give meaningless updates about his progress on the pen, but she ducks every call. Eventually, Elaine decides to buy the pencil somewhere else, really letting down the creepy salesman to the point he guilts her into going on a date with him.

Kramer’s story starts with him describing an argument he had with his golf partner, former baseball player Steve Gendason. Gendason violated a rule, so Kramer gave him a penalty stroke, which enraged Gendason, causing a huge argument. Later on in the episode, Jerry sees a news report about how Gendason murdered a dry cleaner after getting in an argument over a stained garment. Kramer feels guilty for putting Gendason in the mindset to commit this crime. He makes amends by driving the getaway car for Gendason, a scene exactly like the OJ Simpson car chase.

There were several great tangents by Akiva and Rob this week. First they discussed how the writers of the show must have had a hard time with the string of new girlfriends Jerry and George have each episode. Next they talked about the correlation between this episode and the OJ Simpson ordeal that happened the summer prior to this airing. Akiva wondered if Rob was a museum guy, but Rob has never been predisposed to them.

In 2016, there would be only be a couple things that would be different. They all could have followed the Gendason situation on the internet, and DNA evidence would have sunk Gendason.

Akiva gave the episode a ranking of 95, feeling it was more enjoyable the first watch. Both cast their letter grades on each of the core four. They thought Jerry deserved a B, and Elaine deserved a D, since it didn’t go anywhere. Akiva thought George deserved an A-, while Rob thought a B+. Lastly, they thought Kramer deserved a B+.

The email bag was pretty full this week. Johnny De Silveira offered some insight to the Miss America winners. He also asked what ever happened to Gendason, to which Akiva thought it probably mirrored the OJ thing. Amir thought Julie should have known handing the big salad to Elaine would mean she was taking credit. Amir also noted that Jerry does have a problem with dry cleaners.

Craig thought Newman had his most complete story in this episode. He wondered if either of them have dated and dumped a woman out of their league, to which Rob laughed. Craig also wondered if Newman is an enigma wrapped in a riddle or a Twinkie, and they both thought Twinkie. Liz wanted to thank them for discussing Making a Murder, and she wondered if either of them needed credit for something they’ve done. Both of them agreed that they do want to be recognized. Finally, Chester wondered why Jerry would pay for pens, since you can get a free one just about anywhere.

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  • John Davis

    Hey Rob and Akiva,

    I’m not a big fan of the fake phone numbers (555-xxxx) that
    they use in movies and TV shows either, but for some of us, the KL5-xxxx is
    less bothersome. That’s because that is how phone numbers were
    given out and used back when I was a kid.
    Back in the 50’s you were given a Telephone Exchange Name like CEdar or
    TAylor (the first two letters were capitalized and corresponded to the numbers
    and letters that were on the old dial phones) and then the rest of your phone
    number was followed by five numbers or four in more rural areas. So my phone number in Wellesley Massachusetts in 1958 was CE-7-xxxx. It was easier to remember a word followed by five numbers. A number like KLondike 5-xxxx sounds better to us old timers.

  • Tim Knox

    Good bye, Robiva (or Akirob, whichever you prefer)

    My wife is eternally annoyed by how many moments of our lives I can relate to bits on Seinfeld. Like just at the turn of the month she confused my every day balloons for the new years ones ;) but she does appreciate her sneezes responded by “you’re soooo good looking”… And I still appreciate ‘my wife’ as an amazing way to start a sentence.

    Not entirely sure why I lead with that, but after hearing your podcast today about the Big Salad, I felt myself in rare disagreement with you about the fake phone numbers. KL5 is I fine replacement for 555. First, it’s less repetitive. Second, it is a nice and subtle way to mask the fact that it’s fake. Like all us pre-millenials remember – JKL represents the #5 on phone pads – heck, why not say ‘JK5′ and be more blunt about the fact that they’re ‘just kidding’ about the number being revealed. Sure, it may throw more disconnect to reality.. But also heeds more clever satire for us fans of the Seinfel(d)avid creators.

    At any rate, keep up the good work helping my case to keep these Seinfeld moments alive beyond tbs and Hulu.


  • Craig

    Ok, I agree that my question was probably a little outrageous. I think I may have the worst track record for comments and questions of anyone on here. It’s one of the main reasons why I don’t ever suggest a Seinfeld Super Fan Roundtable PSR, because I know that via priority I would be behind Chester, Amir, Johnny, Suzi, Toast, and… Well anybody else who posts here. Ah well, I’ll keep sending them in until my podcast ban comes into effect!

    I kind of don’t like this episode as much now because of the O.J stuff. I was only 2/3 at the time when it happened so I only know it from reference, but it’s such an over played reference that it’s kind of annoying. I think the O.J trials is possibly the most overrated pop culture moment ever.

    I did watch that 30 for 30. Despite my O.J comment, that is probably my favourite one of those. So interesting to see all the events going on that day. I like how one of the newer ones called The 4 Falls of Buffalo, about the 4 straight Super Bowl losses by the Buffalo Bills contains interviews from the locker rooms with the players being done by O.J Simpson. It’s like the producers of the 30 for 30 were just trying to rub in how much bad luck that franchise has had.

    I use erasable pens. They are great for those little mistakes, and since the ink is erasable, it doesn’t ruin your clothes because the ink isn’t as strong. Still strong enough to get the job done though. Given the choice though, I would pick a mechanical pencil any day.

    • Suzi!

      I’m older and believe me, the OJ trial was “must see tv” at the time. I watched the trial every day like a religion, along with millions of other people. So to not do an OJ episode would be strange.
      PS. You’re doing fine!

  • Natrone Beans

    How do you guys not recognize stiles from teen wolf???