Star Trek: Deep Space 9 | “In the Pale Moonlight” Rewatch with Jessica Liese

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Rob Cesternino Recaps Star Trek: Deep Space Nine’s “In the Pale Moonlight” with Jessica Liese

To get ready for the premiere of Star Trek Discovery later this month, Rob Cesternino has begun to talk to some Star Trek fans about their favorite all-time Star Trek episodes.

“In the Pale Moonlight”

Rob is joined by Jessica Liese (@Haymaker Hattie) to discuss her favorite episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, “In the Pale Moonlight”.

  • I have CBS ALL ACCESS, and AMAZON PRIME, both of which have every official episode of every Star Trek series, many of which I have watched hundreds of times, so that I have memorized every word after the original series, which I find too painful to watch much. My favorite DS9 is where Kai Opaka dies in a shuttle crash and comes back to life, but only on the planet where they crashed, to help the mutual victims of an eternal holographic war, where all the dead come back to life and continue killing each other over and over. I have a lot of DVDs with individual episodes of STAR TREK VOYAGER, TNG, DS9, ENTERPRISE, and almost every star trek movie online or on DVD…

    • Pink Pearl

      Speaking of character actors with distinctive voices, it blew me away when I rewatched “Battle Lines” a few years ago and realized that one of the leaders of the battling factions was Jonathan Banks, years before “Breaking Bad.”

      Thank you for (all of) the feedback!

      • wow Pink Pearl, thank you for your comment !! Sorry that actor and show are my loss 🙁 I will try to start Breaking Bad soon. My favorite hidden actor in DS9 is Wallace Shawn, who played Zek the Grand Nagus of the Ferengi Alliance. Loved to watch his character in Crossing Jordan too. Just met a distant relative of his who gave me this link Wallace Shawn: Night Thoughts https://youtu.be/HRx2Vrg1UOc

      • Jonathan Banks Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (TV Series)
        Shel-la http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0052186/ Watched THE EXPANSE for the first five episodes, he was in it but I need to watch it again to find him. Breaking Bad (TV Series) Mike Ehrmantraut, The Expanse (TV Series)
        Executive Officer, and a million other roles !!

      • TrentC

        That’s one thing I’ve enjoyed from almost all of the Star Trek series. The guest appearances by mainstream actors who have gone on to do other work.

        Unfortunately for me, I didn’t care for Deep Space Nine and haven’t watched many eps. Certainly have enjoyed every other version since TOS. Thanks for the podcast PP, nice to hear from you again.

        • Pink Pearl

          As we mention in the podcast, the first couple of seasons are ROUGH. If it’s been a few years, I definitely recommend giving it another try! You could probably even start with the tail end of Season 3, skip most of the rough stuff, and get straight into the Dominion War.

          • TrentC

            This may sound elitist. For me it’s the cutesy factor. If a show has too many supplementary characters that appear to be there for comedic relief, I walk away. Odo was fine, having a few Ferengi was okay, but when they focus on the ear-erogenous zone thing I start to fade away.

            Thanks for the advice, I’ll probably watch a season at least to be fair to the show. My ‘show-stoppers’ for DS9 are definitely a me-thing as some friends have told me similar things to what you mention here.

          • Pink Pearl

            Oh, for sure, skip ALL the Ferengi episodes! (And also hit fast-forward on any segment featuring Vic Fontaine, the lounge singer I rant about near the end of the podcast.)

          • WHOA I LOVED the Badda Bing episode, and a LOT of the Vic Fontaine stuff 🙂 especially that Vic was a mentor to Nog after the PTSD when Nog lost a leg! I do agree that MANY of the DS9 episodes are just not up for repeats 🙂 too much like WWII for me 🙁 constant actual war for the first seven years of my life was enough, especially because our family lost my Uncle Neal in 1943 🙁 I think that Vic as a PTSD counselor appeals to me because, at age seven, I had to become a PTSD counselor to many of my uncles who returned.

          • part of the reason I loved Badda Bing is that when I was about seven, in 1945, the Mafia actually took over my home town !!

            The Mafia was entrenched in our community during the 1940s through late 1970s, and had basically destroyed the local economy with illegal gambling and drug abuse that still has a terrible effect on our young people. A few years ago, there were murders every few days.

            I was angry with the Mafia, which had corrupted the community, and then gave large donations to the church. I had tried to persuade the elderly pastor there in my childhood to stop giving racist sermons, just to support the Mafia and its need to protect its territory. They had succeeded in driving any people of color out of my home town, including many beloved friends of my family, to this day people mistakenly say that the Mafia used racism to ‘keep drugs out of our community’ history tells a different story…

          • TrentC

            Hi Anthony,
            My father, who I lost earlier this year was born in the 30’s too. Just wanted to say it’s nice to see a person of…ummm, a certain age, enjoy sci-fi and some of the more recent TV series in general. You and my father grew up in a different world that most of us will (thankfully) never know.

            I couldn’t respond to all of your references here, but I think Gemma Chan is amazing on Humans playing a synthetic life form. She’s almost spooky at times. Love that series.

            And do check out Breaking Bad. It’s one of the best, most intense dramas I’ve watched about a regular man’s journey into darkness. I think you’ll love Jonathan Banks when he shows up.

          • WOW thanks TrentC for the wonderful context of your father and me being in the same era of never actually being a child, and having the experience of Picard and the small crew who became children only by appearance Season 6 Episode 7 RASCALS https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B00R143VHC which I have watched hundreds of times !!

            Gemma is world class, many actors can play a role, great actors become the character so much, like Charlize Theron in MONSTER who I never realized was her until months after I saw that movie !! I freak out every time I just see the name ‘Mia’ anywhere it sparks a reaction in my mind of Gemma as Mia and all the shocking scenes she portrayed as Mia !!

            Looking forward to binge watching Breaking Bad soon. I rely on Amazon Prime to supply my drug of choice 🙂

      • http://www.amc.com/shows/breaking-bad

        http://www.amc.com/shows/humans I absolutely love Gemma Chan, who stars in HUMANS, she is a real life heroine, and she tweeted back to me personally several times.

  • entire text of script for IN THE PALE MOONLIGHT

    http://www.chakoteya.net/DS9/543.htm

  • Hornacek

    Oh, hell yeah! I was hoping DS9 got included in these podcasts, and if it was, this would be the episode. This is definitely a post-Roddenberry episode – he never would have approved this story.

    Anyone who doesn’t like this episode, well, all I can say about that opinion is … https://angrytechnician.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/its-a-fake.jpg?w=479&h=232

  • ‘…Orion Slave Girls are really the masters over the men in their society…’

    ‘…They use powerful pheromones to control the males into doing their bidding and by selling themselves as slaves into other species, they can use their seductive powers to get what they want there…’

    https://www.quora.com/In-Star-Trek-if-society-has-moved-past-slavery-how-is-the-green-Orion-slave-girl-legal

  • ‘…The last line of this episode was based on a line of the 1962 John Ford movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, which is spoken by Tom Doniphon (John Wayne); “Cold-blooded murder, but I can live with it. Hallie’s happy. She wanted you alive.” (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion, p. 558)…’

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/In_the_Pale_Moonlight_(episode)

  • http://www.kissthisguy.com/funny.php ‘ top 100 misheard lyrics of all time ‘

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Glintara_sector

    ‘…The Glintara sector was a region of space in the Romulan Star Empire, located between the Cardassian-Romulan border and Romulus.

    In the forged holorecording created by Grathon Tolar in 2374, the planned Dominion invasion of Romulan space involved the advance of the 23rd Jem’Hadar Division through the Glintara sector…’

  • TheTimelessOne

    Love this episode and love that u cover episodes across all series. 🙂

  • Hornacek

    There’s an episode where Garak tries to join some renegade Cardassians so that he can go home again. It all fails apart, and Garak returns to Deep Space Nine. He tells Odo that the sad part is that he’s a very good tailor.

    https://youtu.be/ofmTGCvYCag?t=75

  • Hornacek

    No discussion of DS9 is complete without this supercut, the greatest supercut ever made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjvYiSDJujA