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The Walking Dead Book Club | Spoiler Discussion of “Twice As Far”

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WARNING: Spoilers from the WALKING DEAD comic books, and potentially TV show, are ahead!

Welcome to the WALKING DEAD BOOK CLUB podcast! This is the place to talk about the story of Walking Dead from the perspective of people who have also read the Robert Kirkman and Charlie Adlard comics on which the show is based.

In their fifth episode, Josh Wigler (@roundhoward) and Jessica Liese (@HaymakerHattie) break down episode 614, “Twice as Far,” and also briefly touch on “The Same Boat,” the Carol and Maggie standalone they missed while Josh was traveling.

Josh and Jessica talk about Denise’s death and how it interacts with the comics, what will happen now with Abraham now that he’s dodged a bullet (or an arrow as it were), just how satisfying it was to see Eugene sink his teeth into stage two (so to speak), and more.

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  • GeekFurious

    My fundamental problem with the way deaths are written on the show is that they are exactly that erroneous joke about George RR Martin. You know the one… that goes something like “You fall in love with this character and then they are killed by a random arrow.” That’s ridiculous. It’s not remotely true. And yet that’s become a thing people say.

    George RR Martin makes his deaths MEAN SOMETHING. The reason character A dies is because character B worked for months to convince character C to move money to character B’s account to pay for character D to turn character A’s allies against her. Not because some random arrow got her.

    THE WALKING DEAD just kills people to kill them. Not always… on the rare occasion that we see an actual consequence-of-action death, it’s the exception not the norm. Death may be random in life, but it’s disingenuous for any writer to say “well, that’s real life, people just die by accident.” No. YOU ARE THE WRITER. You made the effort to kill them. And that was my jab (my question that you read) at the writer’s room using dice to choose who dies. Because at least, if they did that, I’d have more respect for their pointless choices.

    Let’s just touch on one of the main reasons why the show deaths are terribly written: no one seems to understand BASIC SURVIVAL SKILLS even though they’ve been surviving for this long in a hostile environment. The writers seem to lack all concepts of the heightened awareness of people who learn to survive in perpetually hostile environments. They wouldn’t walk on railroad tracks. They would walk below them. On the side, at worst. But more likely, they’d walk in concealment. Not to mention, the “protectors” on this trip with their ONE CAPABLE MEDIC, would be highly aware of her importance and be annoyingly defensive about her every move.

    And this is BASIC HUMAN SURVIVAL SKILLS 101. Not even advanced, perpetual, heightened awareness by combat veterans, something at least two of those cats on that mission were.

    The show’s writing is exhaustively stupid.

    • Morty

      Yep, having been US Army Infantry many moons ago and a patrol cop more recently, I just shake my head at many of the “tactics” or lack thereof. Then I remind myself it’s just a TV show designed more entertainment and advancing the story in the way they wanna tell it, so I calm down and don’t fret over it anymore.
      I go from what the WTF to Meh…

  • Matt Racine

    so disappointed they swapped this arrow death giving it to Denise. she was quickly becoming one of my favorite characters on the entire show.

  • Linus Wesley

    I LOVE that theory about Sasha. Had completely forgotten about the whole Holly mix up death. The unfortunate racial implications aside, it does seem like a perfect fit story-wise and would be one of very few times that the show actually manages to make a shocking twist from the comic have more impact. Very interesting to see how they proceed with this.

  • Sean LaBua

    I actually think Tara will get the Holly death