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The Walking Dead Season 6 Episode 4 Recap Podcast of “Here’s Not Here” on November 2, 2015

Josh Wigler (@roundhoward) and Rob Cesternino (@robcesternino) are back to recap The Walking Dead Season 6 Episode 4, “Here’s Not Here”

Rob and Josh work their way past the Glenn and Rick distractions as we focus on Morgan and where’s he been since “Clear.”

They talk about his relationship with Eastman and discuss if Eastman is the best one-off character The Walking Dead has given us. Can Eastman be considered a cheesemaker, if he never makes edible cheese?

They talk about how Eastman helped change Morgans philosophy to the peaceful Aikido and how it will apply around more people. Also, will he be able to transfer Aikido to Rick?

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The Walking Dead 2015: Season 6, Episode 4 Recap - Here's Not Here

The Walking Dead 2015: Season 6, Episode 4 Recap – Here’s Not Here

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  • Dave_Bakker

    Any thoughts on the “Into the Badlands” trailer?

  • Dave_Bakker

    How does this episode compare to other TWD POV episodes?

  • Chris

    Do you think there should have been a 90 mins long Morgan solo episode. Was the mystery of Morgan and the cheesemaker more interesting then the reveal??

  • Chris

    Is Morgan the Luke to the cheesemakers obiwan?. How long will Morgan’s pacifist lifestyle last

    • @Wharfrat1625

      Eastman was more Yoda than Obi Wan.

  • John Santucci

    The Eastman character might possibly be the best one-episode character in the history of The Walking Dead.

  • Emily Stobs

    Even if this was a really well-written episode, do you think it’ll be discredited because of the more polarizing topic of “What happened to Glenn??”

  • Emily Stobs

    I was so invested in learning more about Eastman’s character. I was so sad to see him get killed off.

  • Emily Stobs

    How did those two travelers that Morgan saved near the end not hear that walker riding up on them? Where they both deaf??

    • I think they were trying to run from it, but the guy had an injury

  • Dave_Bakker

    Any thoughts on the omission in the opening credits?

  • Craig

    I must say, John Caroll Lynch saved this episode from being the worst Walking Dead episode ever. After last episode, to essentially pull the “Terrence and Phillip Special” to this, and extend it a half hour to make everyone think that they are going to include both stories.

    That being said, I think that JCL should be seriously considered for a Best Guest Actor Emmy. When I saw him in the credits, I was excited. I have seen a lot of the things he has been in and he is such a good actor, and he does a great job here. When he tells the story about how Creyton escaped prison just to kill his family and ruin his life, he delivered it with such a “Sad but it happened” way that it came across as crushingly sad.

    What was bad about this episode was really Morgan. I just didn’t like how much time they spent with him going crazy, and then relapsing. It just made the episode feel too long. I really think they could have cut some of that out, shortened it to a hour, and moved it to a time not after a controversial episode, this episode could have been much better. It will likely appreciate in value in the future, but right now it just feels so out of place.

    But thank you JCL for making this episode not infuriatingly watchable.

  • Legionwrex

    Did Eastman purposely allow Tabitha to escape? No matter if it’s locked or not, goats don’t know how to open doors (especially considering the prison cell door would have to be pulled to be open from the inside)

    • Andiamo

      Maybe. He knew he was dying and didn’t want Morgan to stay or be tied to the cabin in any way. On the other hand, you’d think he would’ve given the goat a more humane ending.

  • Tom Palmer

    Do you think the showrunners should have flipped the order of this episode and “Thank you?” This episode SEEMED really good, but I was distracted by Glenn the whole time.

  • Tom Palmer

    I hope there’s an indiana jones type scene, where Morgan’s showing off his impressive staff work, and Rick just pulls out a gun and shoots him in the head. Thoughts? Morgan needs to die, right?

  • Chris

    Is it safe to say the wolves story line is more or less over.

  • Steve Davis

    I was very thrown off by the proximity of Eastman’s cabin. How was it so isolated that very few walkers and humans have come across it but also made it easily accessible for Morgan to stumble upon. It seemed like Morgan got there pretty quickly and easily from his place previously seen on “Clear.” That hideout was in the middle of a town (that I believe was near Rick’s hometown) thats seemed to be easy to find since Morgan was defending it with armor. They also seemed like they were close to town in this episode considering Eastman went on runs with a hand-cart. Given everything we’ve seen on TWD, do you find it hard to believe he has made it this far using just a stick?

  • Steve Davis

    This was a very good episode and backstory for Morgan, but do you think it did it lost some cache due to where it aired? With the Glenn of it all in the back of our minds, it’s like we double-downed on this “Glenn Gamble”. Not only are we still trying to figure out Glenn’s fate, but now our mourning and vulnerable minds are now diverted to this bottle episode that we cannot give our full attention to. The one week layoff with Glenn’s fate was more than enough. If we stayed on course with that storyline, and then aired “Here’s not Here” later on, everybody wins (except maybe Glenn). LOST did this in season 6 with a much worse episode and too close to the series finale.

  • Edwin Johnson

    Who are these people that carry wallets and ID this far into the zombie apocalypse? No wonder they became walkers.

  • Do you think the way Eastman got bitten was dodgy? Why didn’t he hit the walker in the head to protect Morgan? Honestly, it would have been easier considering his martial arts skills

    • S_Carl_Dixon

      Yeah….a ton of Walking Dead Deaths have been dodgy lately….Beth’s death you remember? Don’t know what she was thinking grabbing that tiny scissor…….LOL…..And Tyrese, out of nowhere the walker appears and bit his arm…..these deaths are just too convenient to take this show seriously anymore….what a shame! and now they pull a stunt like this with Glenn??? I really don’t know what they are thinking anymore……

  • Big week for John Carroll Lynch. American Horror Story and The Walking dead within a few days of each other

  • @Wharfrat1625

    What do you guys think about the confidence the show has in the audience to digest an extra long bottle episode like this after the drama of last week? Given their track record, do we owe the show-runners a little more trust than we have given them recently?

    How brave is Scott Gimple to put such faith in John Carroll Lynch who played Eastman to carry the weight of the episode despite not being a series regular? Is it just me or did you guys also genuinely mourn the loss of such a complex and compelling character?

    Will Morgan’s newfound code break before it bends by the end of S6? Will he kill again, or will Eastman and Akido ultimately cause his death despite giving him solace and peace in life?

    -R Filly

  • AH

    anyone else notice the “w” on morgan’s forehead when eastman hands over morgans stick and says he’s fixed the spear?

  • Chris

    The wolf said if he gets out he will kill everyone even the children. Is Judith or Ron on the chopping block

    • Andiamo

      Hopefully Ron is, and Carl. Judith can stay.

      • S_Carl_Dixon

        Definitely Ron!!! Can’t wait to see that kid get killed~~ LOL (I just realised I’m a horrible person! xD)

        • Andiamo

          Lol. You and me both.

    • it’s hard to believe the naivete of Morgan to let this bastard live as long as he has…horrible judgment. To let compassion and mercy increase the risk of your own death and others is irresponsible.

  • Coach

    It looks like next week will be an Alexandria centered episode. Are we even going to get the answer to Glen and/or Rick’s safety before the midseason finale?

  • Coach

    Is the Wolf that Morgan has locked up a specific one from the comics?

  • Joakim Jansson

    Dear Josh & Rob, where do you see walking dead in 2 years? 5 years? How long can a show like this go on without getting boring?

  • Joakim Jansson

    How much better would this episode have been if they had aired it before the “Glenn episode”?

  • Phil The-Issues-Guy

    Did you guys notice it was ricks voice at the end of the episode -so he is out of danger- I only knew cause i was watching with subtitles and it said “rick – open the gate”

    • Andiamo

      I did notice that. Maybe they gave us that to make up for torturing us with Glenn.

  • Phil The-Issues-Guy

    better than the riddler?

  • Phil The-Issues-Guy

    Can’t kill you but don’t have to save you -morgan

  • HomerBrannon1

    Save the terrapins from hungry emo chicks!

  • Andiamo

    I’m assuming that after Morgan knocks the Wolf out he takes him to the cell. Then we see him leave the cell and hear Rick yell “Open the gates.” So when does the scene from the end of the episode two weeks ago come in where he’s walking down the street past Carol with the blue bag in his hand? Am I missing something?

  • allie l.

    I could see Carl doing Aikido

  • Phillip Marshall

    For the question of electricity, the answer is solar panels. Eastman’s cabin had several of them on the roof.

  • Mike Giangreco

    Eastman had solar panels on his roof…they were clearly visable…..

  • Tim Forbes

    Maybe it’s just me but I like the way they set out the episodes. I’m interested in multiple storylines rather than just ‘What happened to Glenn?’ as I feel like he is clearly alive and can wait to find out how he survived. I like focussing on different people and storylines.

  • Steve Davis

    You can easily scrub characters from credits if they are not rendering services. It usually doesn’t happen unless the actor agrees to it. This would be that rare case. With Sarah Wayne Callies, she still rendered services for the rest of her season via ghost and hallucinational phone calls. In short, it’s not an exact science. Since Gimple said we will still see Glenn in some way, I definitely would not read too much into it.

  • Derek_Sye

    Maybe I am just jaded, but I found this episode to be pretty formulaic. We even got a corny little training montage half way through the episode. I loved the Governor episodes, but this one really didn’t grab me. Perhaps I just don’t think Morgan is nearly as interesting a character or maybe it is just more interesting to see how a character falls from grace then see another in a line of a million redemption arcs.

  • S_Carl_Dixon

    Who do you guys think is going to end up saving Glenn? Will it be a new character from the comics? If so, who do you want it to be without giving away too much spoilers?

  • S_Carl_Dixon

    The more production tries to make it seem like Glenn is dead….the more it proves that he’s not…..

  • Infinity8

    I loved this episode. I don’t really get all the criticisms being heaped onto Walking dead for that last two episodes. They were riveting shows. Eastman, what a trip that guy was! And honestly, if I was Morgan, I’d stay at the cabin. *&#% humanity! lol!

  • S_Carl_Dixon

    I think we’ll get to appreciate this episode more once we finally learn the fate of Glenn and Rick…..otherwise watching this episode is like watching it while a mosquito is trapped in your room….you just cannot concentrate until you kill the damn nuisance!! xDD

  • Chris Burton

    I wonder if the “What happened to Glenn” issue might have a similar consequence to the first season of The Killing a few years ago – where drawing out the resolution for far longer than expected turned the audience away in droves, never to come back. At some point the showrunners surely have to notice that their protracted trickery is not actually entertaining – it’s just a big bummer.

    • S_Carl_Dixon

      As long as they don’t drag the reveal until the Finale (episode 16) then it shouldn’t be as bad as The Killing….I know it’s only been one episode so far for Glenn and Rick’s fate….but The Killing to be fair was a Murder Mystery so the identity by proxy had to be revealed in the finale to make it exciting (where they totally stuffed up is dragging the reveal until the Season 2 Finale when they pretty much promised the viewers we’ll be getting answers by the end of Season 1….which we didn’t~) TWD however is not a murder mystery!! Even though people die in the show….we usually get to see how they die immediately, and feel the effects of the aftermath…..not the case for Glenn unfortunately….(and we still don’t even know whether he died or not….xD) As you said….that’s not entertaining….it’s literally the show knowing it’s popularity and messing with our heads, which in the process insults it’s viewers’ intelligence just like Rob said……it’s a shame really, cos this season started off so well~~

  • NYszq

    I can’t wait to see Caroles reaction if she finds out that Morgan is keeping a wolf alive inside Alexandria.

  • I think its a bit unrealistic to rely on wood when you know that penetration with steel is more effective. I think my weapon of choice would be long spear or pike (if I had to commit to just one) longer range…oh well…

    • S_Carl_Dixon

      LOL….I also always wondered how that walking stick doesn’t just snap in half….I guess you can still use it…but just as you said, unrealistic and unreliable to say the least~~

  • ItsCola

    Until Morgan mentioned it I didn’t find the cell strange at all & defo want a pet goat at some point.

  • Paul

    If they hold off on Rick/Glenn updates until episode 8 I will be upset. I like the action this season but using 8 episodes to cover a day or two (in show time) is too much.

  • Tom Palmer

    Calling it now. Glenn doesn’t show up until mid season finale, and when he does, he’ll have been brainwashed and have become a Wolf.

  • S_Carl_Dixon

    I just think Glenn will appear again and introduce a new character to the show…and that character will somehow tie in to how Glenn survived that walker herd attack!!

  • sunny

    I cant get the voice mail to work on my phone 🙂

    Do you think its possible that all the Glen speculation was intended to be a distraction and that the real shocker will be that Rick doesnt make it out of the rv?
    Whenever that does happen (Ricks death), do you think the show will be able to keep that bombshell under wraps until the show airs or do you think it will leak somehow?

  • homertownie

    There is only way that Morgan’s story can end. The same way every ultra-pacifist story has to end in a violent universe. His pacifism will have to result in one of the good guys being threatened with death, and Morgan will have to either kill the threat or die himself to save the good guy, and he will stick with his principles and die saving the good guy without killing the bad guy.

    Morgan can’t turn from pacifism into realistic self-protection because we already had that story with “Rick the Farmer”. And Morgan already has Chekhov’s wolf hid in a house in Alexandria.

    It’s been nice knowing you, Morgan.