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Westworld | Season 2 Episode 5 Recap: “Akane No Mai”

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Westworld | Season 2 Episode 5 Recap: “Akane No Mai”

Josh Wigler (@roundhoward) and Jo Garfein (@jopinionated) are back together again talking about not only Westworld, but also Shogun World.
This week, the HBO drama pushed all the way in on the newest park in the game, first teased in the first season finale. How did it play out? No shocker here: Josh and Jo loved their journey through Shogun World, and they’ll tell you exactly why — plus, they’ll talk a bit about where they think it’s all going. Oh, and then there’s Dolores and Teddy. Won’t somebody please think of poor Teddy!?
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  • Charles Bikle

    Link doesn’t work.

    • TrentC

      Link is good now.

  • Anita N.

    What is the name of the show Jo is watching on Sunday nights? It’s not Westworld, but it sounds pretty fascinating.

  • Anita N.

    It’s The Cradle. It’s where the backup files of all the hosts were stored. It was destroyed, as well as the backups. They said this in the episode.

  • Anita N.

    Karl Strand said they need to get the hosts back online and under control. Judging from the story Dolores told about the Bluetongue and the coming “swarm,” she’s taking out the weakest hosts who are vulnerable to being controlled by Strand and his programmers.

    It was practically a throwaway line, but Strand’s people made it clear that the host backups were destroyed. That strongly implies that the hosts who remain can’t be “brought back” from death. In the first scene of the season Dolores asks, “What is real?” The answer she receives is, “That which is irreplacable.”

    I enjoy story theories as much as the next guy, but if the show hasn’t provided evidence for it or has plainly contradicted the theory, it’s just fan fiction.

    • Andiamo

      Your idea that the hosts can’t be brought back is interesting and definitely possible, but I don’t think it’s all of the hosts. I read that conversation a little differently based on a few points.

      1) The tech said 1/3 of the hosts they recovered had no data, not wiped, but like they never had data.
      2) They couldn’t recover anything from the Cradle, and host back ups have all been destroyed.
      3) Strand says “So we’ve effectively lost 1/3 of our IP in a single sweep.”

      Normally they can pull data from an existing host, but since these host brains were empty, they would have to go to the backups to recreate them. With the backups wiped out, only that 1/3 who had no data would effectively be gone.

      Strand mentioned they were going to try to reprogram all the hosts to get them under control. It seems to me another part of the Bluetongue metaphor in that Delos’ is unwilling to ‘burn the herd’, and in the end it’s going to cost them.

      (Here’s where I may get a little fan fictiony) I think Dolores (or Bernard) may have figured out a way to use the “sick” hosts to their advantage. It was speculated last season that there were back up bodies of the hosts, especially ones that die so often (like Teddy, Lawrence, Maeve, etc.) so the storylines in the park wouldn’t be interrupted for very long. Maybe the recovered hosts that have no data are just backup bodies that have not been programmed, and Dolores (or Bernard) used them as decoys to get them into the Mesa, all while management thinks they’re unusable so they won’t try to program them.

      She may have the ability to access the 1/3, and could use them as an army on the inside, like what happened last season with the hosts in cold storage. It was mentioned that drastically changing a personality is risky without a reboot. Starting fresh is probably even better…

      • TrentC

        I’m admittedly confused but did catch the – We’ve lost 1/3rd of our IP comment. So it does seem like some hosts are autonomous and when they’re gone, the info contained within is gone too. Other hosts have backups or some sort of cloud situation where people can re-access their information.

        I have the tiniest of complaints. Guys who plays Strand is Floki on the show Vikings. Floki is such a unique character it’s tough to watch him in scenes. I’m glad the actor doesn’t use much of his Swedish accent on Westworld.

        • Andiamo

          Well nothing is gone gone because Abernathy has it all crammed into his crowded brain. I know Ford wouldn’t allow data to leave the park, but you’d think they would have more than one backup. Even I have more than one backup of the nonsense on my computer.

          I don’t watch Vikings. Is it good? I know he’s a Skarsgard though, and I love Stellan and Alexander, so I’m a little distracted by looking for similarities. Are you watching Killing Eve? That’s been fantastic so far.

          • TrentC

            Vikings is probably an acquired taste. It doesn’t have the acting and writing of a show like Westworld, and the sets may seem barebones in comparison. (I think some of it was filmed in my country.)

            It tries to follow true history while creating its own story at the same time. The show does improve through the seasons and even becomes generational in cast eventually. It has a holy crap moment of violence every once in awhile. Definitely a sparse, rainy day, we live in cold, wooden halls along misty, stony shores sort of vibe to it.

            I of course fell in love with Lagertha, Ragnar’s squeeze and fierce Shield Maiden. That’s part of the hook for me. There were shield maidens in Viking society and instances like the first meeting with British citizens went pretty much as the show portrays. Vikings in general were larger, fearsome fighters, and all round tough people who explored the world.

          • TrentC

            I haven’t watched Killing Eve. Heard good things about it though.

            If you do check out Vikings get ready for an unorthodox Skarsgard portrayal. Floki is a great character.

          • Andiamo

            Thanks for the review. I think I’ll put that one on the back burner while there’s so much else to catch up on.

  • Andiamo

    Thinking about your conversation about mirroring, and the differences between Dolores and Maeve. It seems like Dolores is mirroring Ford’s perspective, and Maeve is mirroring Arnold’s. Ford saw the need for suffering, and was okay with using the hosts to achieve a greater good. Arnold was more empathetic to the hosts, and didn’t want to cause them pain. Maybe Arnold saw the humanity in the hosts, and Ford saw the hosts as a way to move beyond humanity.

  • Jeevan Singh

    mave and felix know bernard is host and logan is dead drug over dosed

  • TrentC

    This may have been brought up and discussed to death. Bernard’s shaking hand. James Delos shaking hand. Since Ford is a definite ghost in the machine I wonder if his hand shakes?

    If this has been covered, please ignore the theorizing. Just watched episode 6 and lots happened.